[CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)

[Johnny Hughes]

On 05/16/2011 10:41 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On 5/16/2011 5:05 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>>
>> We have never said that anyone but the project would build it.
> 
> But you also didn't say that the project would lack the resources to do 
> it in a timely manner or handle concurrent updates.  In fact, I thought 
> the project used to post goals for timeliness instead of just 'whenever'.
> 
>> The community part is that we give it away for free and the community
>> helps each other use it.
>>
>> That is what this list used to be for.
> 
> People know how to use 5.x by now.  I suspect we'd all rather be talking 
> about how to use new features.
> 
>> Before it turned into an
>> completely unusable pile of crap, where a few people whine the same
>> incessant demands, as if they are paying for something.
> 
> You spoiled us with speed up until the 5.3 update.  We thought it was 
> something we could count on...
> 
>> Well, we make CentOS because we use it in production.
> 
> And you don't have a use for 6.x?
> 
>> We are trying to provide more information on what is going on, but I
>> would say that we already provide more information than any other distro
>> out there.  Certainly any enterprise distro out there.
> 
> You mean things like:
> http://release.debian.org/
> http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/
> http://www.debian.org/devel/buildd/operation
> https://buildd.debian.org/ (w/links to build logs)
> https://buildd.debian.org/stats/
> 
> Doesn't leave much to post mailing list questions regarding status even 
> if their release schedule is "whenever"...   I can sort-of see why 
> commercial distros that want to hurt their competition would hide this 
> kind of information, but what's the point for Centos?
> 
The point is that we do not have a system built that can track that sort
of stuff ... and we can either build packages or design systems to track
stuff.

We are working on a new website design.

We opened up a new QAWeb.

We have an announce list.

As far as build logs are concerned, they reside on the build server ...
where we had people try to "break into".  That machine is now hidden and
references to its name are also hidden.  We can't have people pounding
away against important servers ... there is no such thing as a
completely secure setup.  We therefore will not make our build machines
open to the public.

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