well, had to add something to it. I found out I was having an issue with the addon ethernet card (e1000) 'link detected no' and it not working. Took it out? Yep? Work? No..... However, I did add a second vm and something interesting is happening.... one vm stays up, one will crash...the one that stays does not die. I am thinking that the vnet0 that comes up is messed up and I need to reset it somehow. Or...something else....but one staying up while other goes down is rather odd. very strange.