On 12/12/2013 9:56 AM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: > You misunderstand me: I have the router plugged into the phone co. router, > going into my router's uplink port. so you have two layers of network address translation? or is one or the other of those 'routers' set to bridge ? -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast