On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Steve Clark <sclark at netwolves.com> wrote: > > > This may be fine for users that don't know what they are doing or don't have a stable networking environment, > but I have found for me it causes nothing but heartache. The first thing I do is disable it. > > The sad part is that it makes us not understand what is really happening with our systems and when something doesn't work > we have no idea where to look. > > I have been using UNIX/BSD/Linux since the mid eighties and hate where things appear to be going - looking more and more > like Windows. There are two sides to this. On the one hand you want to be able to nail down server configurations - and probably anything that is going to stay wired. On the other, you can't possibly have liked what you had to do to add a new network (or any other) device to a BSD system in the 80's and it is kind of nice to plug in a usb device and have it come up working without a reboot. I think the real issue is that the way to nail things down either hasn't stabilized or isn't well documented. For example, I think there are ways to tell NM not to mess with a specific interface setting, and maybe a way to say you don't want it to screw up your resolv.conf file, but can you tell it that adding a USB device and picking up a dchp address is OK, but you don't want to change your default route just because dhcp offers it? -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com