On Tue, August 19, 2014 9:08 am, Toralf Lund wrote: > On 19/08/14 15:15, John R. Dennison wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 09:12:36AM -0400, James B. Byrne wrote: >>> I agree about the BS part but that does not make it unenforceable BS in >>> some >>> jurisdictions. And then there is always the threat of impoverishment >>> through >>> litigation. A big enough complainant can simply litigate frivolous >>> torts to >>> impose an economic penalty on its victim regardless of the outcome. >>> Those >>> sorts of disclaimers simple provide a pretext. >> It's all noise and such nonsense should be restricted by policy by list >> owners. If people can't figure out email by now they need to go back to >> using pencil and paper. > It should be pretty clear in this case that the "intended recepient" is > the mailing list and consequently everyone subscribed to it. So what is > there to make all this noise about? Wrong. Legally. It is sender and sender alone who knows one's own intent. > > Furthermore, the information is added by the SMTP server (not the MUA), > so it can't be removed just like that, and due to firewall policies etc. > it's not very easy to send the messages via a different one. And trying > to get this feature removed from the service would be fighting windmills. If you agree it is nonsense, start using free e-mail (gmail, hotmail, yahoo mail to name some, even though I may not agree with privacy policies of at leas some of them). > > I should imagine that many corporate users face similar issues, so > "restricting by policy" like you suggest would mean excluding all of > them from the list(s). Is that what you want? I was expecting the list owner to kick one or both of us two and ban from the list forever. For creating unnecessary noise on the list. Would that happen, I will have to subscribe my different e-mail address (on another server I maintain as well). You (if you too will be banned from the list), hopefully, will start using free (as opposed to "slave"? - OK, disclaimer: just kidding, no legal catch on me here -;) e-mail address. As far as fighting windmills is concerned: I'm fighting against one of them being brought into my backyard (OK, not _my_, but the one of free community I'm member of). Valeri > > - Toralf >> >> >> >> >> >> John >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > This e-mail, including any attachments and response string, may contain > proprietary information which is confidential and may be legally > privileged. It is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the > intended recipient or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, > please notify the author by return e-mail and delete this message and any > attachment immediately. If you are not the intended recipient you must not > use, disclose, distribute, forward, copy, print or rely on this e-mail in > any way except as permitted by the author. > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++