Em 23-08-2014 19:30, Steve Clark escreveu: > On 08/22/2014 07:42 PM, Digimer wrote: >> On 22/08/14 07:07 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Digimer <lists at alteeve.ca> wrote: >>>> To continue your analogy, should car companies have stopped changing >>>> after the 20s? I mean, the cars then got you were you needed to go, right? >>> The point is to abstract an interface so you can make changes behind >>> it without breaking the things already built around it. You can >>> always add things without breaking anything that already worked for >>> your community of users. If you didn't care about that yourself, >>> you'd be recompiling a gentoo weekly instead of being here. >> To echo John, this is a major release. It's where, when needed, things >> can change and break backwards compatibility. If a change like this >> happened as a y-stream release, sure, I'll grab my pitch fork along with >> you. >> >> It's not realistic to expect backwards compatibility to last forever. >> The sysv init stuff had a good long run, but it was time to change. Now, >> you're welcome to disagree with me (and the archives are littered >> already with this argument), but in the end, it changed. A major version >> was the right place to do it, and now it is done. >> >> So this brings me back to my original point... Unless you plan to wage a >> war against things like Network Manager, systemd or what have you in the >> faint home of reverting in the next major release, you don't have a lot >> of viable long term options. >> >> Learn the new ways or fade from relevance. >> >> I say this without passing judgment on the merits of the new or old >> ways, simply as a fact of life. Even if you did hold out hope for, say, >> RHEL 8 to return to the old ways, you will have a hard time avoiding >> EL7. It will almost certainly be adopted wide-scale and that will >> provide inertia. >> > NetworkManager is the window's world way of doing things for people that don't really understand > what is going on. I see no use for it immediately disable it. But it pains me to have to take the time. TBH, I also had some pain on learning it, but now that we also have nmcli (command line tool), I actually feel it's easier than the old ifcfg- files. It's better script-able than before. Marcelo