[CentOS] Java plugin (icedtea-web) does not load

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Tue, August 19, 2014 9:08 am, Toralf Lund wrote:
> On 19/08/14 15:15, John R. Dennison wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 09:12:36AM -0400, James B. Byrne wrote:
>>> I agree about the BS part but that does not make it unenforceable BS in
>>> some
>>> jurisdictions.  And then there is always the threat of impoverishment
>>> through
>>> litigation.  A big enough complainant can simply litigate frivolous
>>> torts to
>>> impose an economic penalty on its victim regardless of the outcome.
>>> Those
>>> sorts of disclaimers simple provide a pretext.
>> It's all noise and such nonsense should be restricted by policy by list
>> owners.  If people can't figure out email by now they need to go back to
>> using pencil and paper.
> It should be pretty clear in this case that the "intended recepient" is
> the mailing list and consequently everyone subscribed to it. So what is
> there to make all this noise about?

Wrong. Legally. It is sender and sender alone who knows one's own intent.

>
> Furthermore, the information is added by the SMTP server (not the MUA),
> so it can't be removed just like that, and due to firewall policies etc.
> it's not very easy to send the messages via a different one. And trying
> to get this feature removed from the service would be fighting windmills.

If you agree it is nonsense, start using free e-mail (gmail, hotmail,
yahoo mail to name some, even though I may not agree with privacy policies
of at leas some of them).

>
> I should imagine that many corporate users face similar issues, so
> "restricting by policy" like you suggest would mean excluding all of
> them from the list(s). Is that what you want?

I was expecting the list owner to kick one or both of us two and ban from
the list forever. For creating unnecessary noise on the list. Would that
happen, I will have to subscribe my different e-mail address (on another
server I maintain as well). You (if you too will be banned from the list),
hopefully, will start using free (as opposed to "slave"? - OK, disclaimer:
just kidding, no legal catch on me here -;) e-mail address.

As far as fighting windmills is concerned: I'm fighting against one of
them being brought into my backyard (OK, not _my_, but the one of free
community I'm member of).

Valeri

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> - Toralf
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>> 							John
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Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
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