mark wrote With the continuing annoyance from motion, my manager's asked me to go looking again for a video surveillance appliance: basically, a motion-detecting DVR and cameras. The big thing, of course, is a) price (this is a US federal gov't agency, and being civilian, money is *tight*, don't give me the libertarian/GOP line about how freely we spend, thankyouverymuch), b) it has to be on the network, and c) we need to be able to d/l to a server, and rm after we do that... and we want to script or cron job that. I was in Costco (USA warehouse store) and saw a Philips LED display, Camera, Recorder, that was motorized. The camera followed the movement across the front of it, and could snapshot to a memory chip. It was under $80.00 for the ensemble. The floor model worked well. If you do not require realtime recording to a hard disk, then this item may be a reasonable cost solution. Regards Leslie Mr. Leslie Satenstein SENT FROM MY OPEN SOURCE LINUX SYSTEM.