"Essentially Red Hat is slowly taking over and developing/assisting Centos to be a more regular and structure organisation. The fact that Red Hat now owns the Centos brand worries me but that's life. Absolutely nothing remains static." Interesting how a _community_ "Brand" can be bought. Seems that we get magical binaries for free but no insight into the build process or timelines to said creation. Surely this was done to keep OEL at bay, but we are still caught in the crossfire and the holders of the build secrets are getting $paid$ to keep the secret. This is opensource without useful makefiles. Something Sony and Cisco do. -- View this message in context: http://centos.1050465.n5.nabble.com/Re-CentOS-CentOS-announce-CentOS-Project-joins-forces-with-Red-Hat-tp5723460p5723802.html Sent from the CentOS mailing list archive at Nabble.com.