On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Russell Miller <duskglow at gmail.com> wrote: > > On Jul 8, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn <dennisml at conversis.de> > wrote: > > > > That presumes that your conservative attitude is the majority opinion > > though. Systemd is one of the features that I have been looking forward > > to in CentOS 7 because of the new capabilities it provides so while this > > will surely drive some people away it will actually attract others and > > if you think that this will lead to some sort of great exodus then I > > think you are mistaken. Not everybody is this uncomfortable with change. > > > For the record, I'm not uncomfortable with change. I'm uncomfortable with > stupid, > poorly thought out, monolithic change that ignores half a century of the > UNIX philosophy. > And creating a daemon that tries to handle everything but the kitchen sink > and implementing > it in such a way as to make it nearly incomprehensible to me certainly > qualifies > as that type of change. > > Sysvinit may not be perfect, but it's UNIX. Systemd is... a lot of > things, but more > of a windows-like solution than I"m comfortable with. It's just dumb. > Surely there could > have been a better way of accomplishing their goals without creating the > equivalent of > Cartman's Trapper Keeper. > > And yea, I'm kind of an old white guy (is 38 old?) The guy who called > that out as > a negative is not helping his cause with me. This old white guy has been > doing Linux > administration when some people on this list were pulling the hair of > girls they liked > and eating bugs. > > (and if that was yesterday, I don't want to hear about it. :)) > > --Russell > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > What's Windows-ish about it? It's all text files; easily available to look at. And Solaris with SMF went in this direction many years ago. Tony Schreiner