On Mon, November 10, 2014 15:00, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2014-11-10, James B. Byrne <byrnejb at harte-lyne.ca> wrote: > > > Try including the session manager in the startx invocation, e.g., > > startx /usr/bin/mate-session > > (Or whaterever the MATE session manager is called. I'm guessing the > above by analogy with gnome-session.) > Yes! Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Now, to test this I removed Gnome3 rather than start over with a fresh install. So it is possible that installing Gnome Desktop makes some configuration change of which I am unaware that permits Mate to work thereafter. However, using startx /usr/bin/mate-session does indeed bring up the Mate desktop without Gnome3 installed. This whole exercise in frustration was due to the fact that I am singularly unimpressed with the Gnome3 experience. Others have made all the arguments and comments respecting its opaqueness and inflexibility that I can think of; and quite a few more besides. So, suffice to say, it will not be installed here. What I cannot understand is why an Enterprise Distro is packaging an evidently tablet based GUI to begin with. Where do they think RHEL gets installed; cell phones? -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB at Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3