On 09/10/2014 05:00 PM, Bill Gee wrote: > On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:10:19 m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >> James B. Byrne wrote: >>> On Tue, September 9, 2014 13:03, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>>> On Tue, September 9, 2014 11:56 am, John R Pierce wrote: >>>>> On 9/9/2014 9:42 AM, a. wrote: >>>>>> its imho cheaper than the huge investment costs of laser >>>>>> printers. >> <snip> >> >>> Water immersion survivability is dependent on the quality of the paper as >>> well as the type of print medium. I do not know if others have >> experienced >> >>> this but the quality of copier/printer paper now available to us exhibits >>> noticeably inferior stability when wetted from paper of the same weight >>> from the same brand-name supplier obtained as recently as four years > > One of my recreational activities is caving. When surveying a cave we always > use Rite-In-The-Rain paper. It is almost completely waterproof. I have > managed to dunk my survey book in a stream for minutes at a time. The paper > and the pencil sketching survived. It also survives getting muddy. It has been around 40 years since the last time I put on my Carbide lamp and went down a hole into the wonderful world of spelunking (Bloomington Ill area). We had to wrap our notebooks in double plastic bags (did we even have ziplocks back then?) as well as the carbide! Still have one carbide lamp (and helmet) that will work. The other is missing the cap on the water tank. Also have my rope gear for vertical work, but it has been a long time since I could fit into the harness we made then! Interesting to hear that things are 'easier' now. We also never took that $500 HP scientific calculator down with us, waiting until we came out to convert our measurements into maps. I was typically point as I was the little guy that could go down the real tight holes and hold my lamp on the survey point for the reading. Took 2 hours to unstick one of the guys that thought he could take over point for me once. Enjoy! > > They offer products that will go through a laser or ink-jet printer. > > http://www.riteintherain.com/ > > For long-term storage (decades or more) the jury is out. I have survey notes > from 15 years ago that are still usable. They are stored in an ordinary filing > cabinet in my house - No special environmental efforts are taken. It seems > reasonable that Rite-In-The-Rain paper will store at least as well as regular > paper. > > It is pricey, but if you really need waterproof then this is good stuff. > > Bill Gee > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >