[CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

Sun Jan 11 20:09:35 UTC 2015
Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu>

On Sun, January 11, 2015 2:05 pm, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
> On 01/11/2015 03:02 PM, Always Learning wrote:
>> On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 20:04 +0100, Sven Kieske wrote to Valeri Galtsev
>> ....
>>> I can't take this serious as it seems you didn't research any of the
>>> design goals of systemd and any of the shortcomings of old init
>>> systems.
>> Design goals ?  Compatibility with and/or minimum disruption to existing
>> systems ?
>> It was arrogant change with absolutely no regard for the existing
>> Centos/RHEL users. That *is* a strange "design goal" (or 'objective' in
>> English).  Some may consider that "goal" an inadvertent omission.
>> Obviously designed by non-Centos/RHEL users for their personal amusement
>> and pleasure and not as an acceptable enhancement that could be
>> implemented, perhaps in phases, within minimum disruption to existing
>> systems reliant on stable Centos/RHEL.  Yes, I know it takes brains to
>> properly consider all the implications of major changes. On this
>> occasion it seems the 'brains' were holidaying away from the influence
>> of due diligence and old fashioned commonsense.
>> Why should the 'brains' care ? They don't run systems that require
>> stability and reliability - that is why they lurk in Fedora where
>> disruption is a scheduled "design goal".
>> Remember that English phrase?  Fools step-in where wise men fear to
>> tread.
>> Hopefully the next "improvement" will consider the adverse affect on the
>> non-Fedora users and on their well-tuned systems.
> There's always the option of just NOT upgrading...and using what you
> currently have...(I'm just now going from CentOS 5 to CentOS 6!....) I'm
> just saying.

Indeed. Or another system altogether (sihg). I'm just extending your
thought half a step farther ;-)


Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247