[CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

Sun Jan 11 20:11:04 UTC 2015
Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. <eoconnor25 at gmail.com>

On 01/11/2015 03:09 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> On Sun, January 11, 2015 2:05 pm, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
>> On 01/11/2015 03:02 PM, Always Learning wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 20:04 +0100, Sven Kieske wrote to Valeri Galtsev
>>> ....
>>>> I can't take this serious as it seems you didn't research any of the
>>>> design goals of systemd and any of the shortcomings of old init
>>>> systems.
>>> Design goals ?  Compatibility with and/or minimum disruption to existing
>>> systems ?
>>> It was arrogant change with absolutely no regard for the existing
>>> Centos/RHEL users. That *is* a strange "design goal" (or 'objective' in
>>> English).  Some may consider that "goal" an inadvertent omission.
>>> Obviously designed by non-Centos/RHEL users for their personal amusement
>>> and pleasure and not as an acceptable enhancement that could be
>>> implemented, perhaps in phases, within minimum disruption to existing
>>> systems reliant on stable Centos/RHEL.  Yes, I know it takes brains to
>>> properly consider all the implications of major changes. On this
>>> occasion it seems the 'brains' were holidaying away from the influence
>>> of due diligence and old fashioned commonsense.
>>> Why should the 'brains' care ? They don't run systems that require
>>> stability and reliability - that is why they lurk in Fedora where
>>> disruption is a scheduled "design goal".
>>> Remember that English phrase?  Fools step-in where wise men fear to
>>> tread.
>>> Hopefully the next "improvement" will consider the adverse affect on the
>>> non-Fedora users and on their well-tuned systems.
>> There's always the option of just NOT upgrading...and using what you
>> currently have...(I'm just now going from CentOS 5 to CentOS 6!....) I'm
>> just saying.
> Indeed. Or another system altogether (sihg). I'm just extending your
> thought half a step farther ;-)
> Valeri
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And that's the beauty of it...the "extending" of thoughts to achieve a 
common goal.....