[CentOS] Another Fedora decision

Sat Jan 31 14:56:45 UTC 2015
Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu>

On Sat, January 31, 2015 4:14 am, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 01/30/2015 06:09 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:27:55PM +0000, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:15:05 -0800
>>> Akemi Yagi <amyagi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Scott Robbins <scottro at nyc.rr.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Centos 7 does that as well.
>>>>> Heh, I guess I've used good passwords in my installs then.
>>>> I have to tap it twice all the time. But don't tell this to
>>>> anyone! ;-)
>>> OP's point is that probably in RHEL8 you won't be able to do even
>>> that anymore.
>> Exactly.  There is some complaining going on on the Fedora testing list,
>> not sure where else one can protest.
> Well, protesting here would be meaningless .. as is protesting systemd
> here.  CentOS-8 will have whatever is in the RHEL-8 source code, exactly
> as it is in that source code minus branding.  Just like CentOS-2.1, 3,
> 4, 5, and 6.  Our goal is to rebuild the source code exactly, bugs and
> all.  We want all the behaviors and the experience to be identical in
> every way.
> If you want to effect change before it gets in RHEL, then Fedora is the
> place.  If you want to get it changed in CentOS, then buy RHEL and
> providing feedback there is the way.  We are, by design, exactly as Red
> Hat pushes the RHEL source code.

No, this is great. We do like CentOS for what it exactly is: binary
replica of RedHat Enterprise. And even if we complain sometimes here on
CentOS list about this or that, we do not (at least I do not) expect it
changed in CentOS the way we like it, making CentOS different from RedHat
Enterprise. It is more like "letting our steam out", so ideally we
probably shouldn't do it at all. However, password thing thread (which I
didn't add to yet) just reminds all of us about good practices. So, this
discussion (without any changes expectations in CentOS) may still be
appropriate and helpful.

Thanks to CentOS team for the great job you guys are doing! (we always
have that in mind, rarely say it though)


Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247