Chris Murphy wrote: >>> No, I am making the assumption that the vast majority of CentOS installs >>> are racked up in datacenters, VPS hosts, etc. >> Is that true, I wonder? >> For some reason Fedora and CentOS seem reluctant to find out anything >> about their users (or what their users want). > This is confusing. I think it's overwhelmingly, abundantly clear that > Fedora care about their users and are listening. CentOS cares with a > hard and fast upper limit which is binary compatibility with RHEL. So > if you want to change CentOS behavior you'd have to buy into RHEL and > convince Red Hat, and then it'd trickle down to CentOS. You (and others) are misunderstanding my off-the-cuff remark. It was purely an observation about the lack of statistics. I rarely if ever see a statement of the kind "Among Fedora users 37% use KDE and 42% Gnome". Or (after the remark I was responding to) "83% of CentOS machines are in datacenters, and 7% are home-servers". (Or "x% of Fedora users have turned SELinux to permissive".) I'm not saying that Fedora or CentOS should work on democratic principles. I welcome Johnny Hughes unambiguous statement that CentOS follows RHEL. This saves a lot of time arguing about things that cannot be changed. But I hold the (old-fashioned?) view that before expressing an opinion one should get the facts. -- Timothy Murphy gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin