[CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers

Thu Oct 22 20:40:59 UTC 2015
Juan Bernhard <juan at inti.gob.ar>

El 22/10/2015 a las 03:00 p.m., Valeri Galtsev escribió:
>
> On Thu, October 22, 2015 12:49 pm, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> On 10/22/2015 11:50 AM, Juan Bernhard wrote:
>>>
>>> El 22/10/2015 a las 01:40 p.m., Nux! escribió:
>>>> Kai,
>>>>
>>>> It is a reality, but when you look at the RHEL target audience, it's
>>>> not exactly hip devs deploying Docker in the cloud.
>>>> Big corps, banks and the like have a very slow development cycle and
>>>> long term support is absolutely crucial, software needs to run for
>>>> years on end without glitches, without interruptions, in a very
>>>> predictable manner etc.
>>>>
>>>> For the aforementioned devs I think the best answer are the software
>>>> collections, that or just use a different distribution. It is what it
>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lucian
>>>
>>> Lucian, they also include the newer versions. The case of banks, who
>>> need specially PHP version 5.3, are a slim 0.01% of php users, the rest
>>> of the mortals, like me, who needs a simple webmail like horde running,
>>> have problems because the rest of the world is not developing any more
>>> with php 5.3 compatibility in mind
>>>
>>> Saludos, Juan
>>>
>>
>> Correct .. but that is not who RHEL, CentOS, Ubuntu (LTS), or SLES type
>> distros are for.  That is what Fedora, OpenSUSE, Ubuntu, Debian, Linux
>> Mint and any other number of "Bleeding Edge" distros are for.  If you
>> want latest and greatest .. well, then use latest and greatest.  If you
>> want enterprise, then use CentOS.
>>
>
> And incidentally these 0.01% (even if the number is true) of Enterprise
> users pay virtually 100% of RH income (the last is what the brilliant job
> of individuals at RH is paid for from). Let's not forget they as well as
> us have families to support.
>
> Valeri

Im not saying that they must remove this package, but they also should 
include the newer version. I use freebsd (and its not a toy distro like 
fedora), and you have several ports, php, php54, php55 and php56 to 
choose whatever you need.
Please, dont think that I dont appreciate the RH job on this, some one 
should support a long term version, some applications needs this, but 
very few.
Thats all. I needed to say this, this is the only thing that bother me 
of centos, and its a little thing. The solution is to add another repo, 
but is a petty that they dont include the newer version on the default 
one. Centos its a great distro, dont take this a complain... its just a 
suggestion.

Saludos, Juan

>
>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>>>>
>>>> Nux!
>>>> www.nux.ro
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Kai Schaetzl" <maillists at conactive.com>
>>>>> To: centos at centos.org
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 22 October, 2015 17:33:33
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers
>>>>
>>>>> Nux! wrote on Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:27:26 +0100 (BST):
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's irrelevant in this case that PHP 5.3 is EOL. It will continue
>>>>>> to be supported by Red Hat with security patches.
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly.
>>>>> Nevertheless, PHP 5.6 is not "bleeding edge" as someone else said.
>>>>> 5.5 and
>>>>> 5.6 are really state of the art and often necessary to install certain
>>>>> software packages or for some functionality. The packages provided by
>>>>> RH
>>>>> are much too fast outdated or have other problems. It's a reality.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kai
>>
>>
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