[CentOS] Just need to vent

Chris Adams linux at cmadams.net
Tue Jan 26 16:47:55 UTC 2016


Once upon a time, Always Learning <centos at u64.u22.net> said:
> Is systemd the beneficial, reliable, useful and workable "improved init
> system" or something with circa 275,000 lines of coding compared to
> init's circa 10,000 lines ?  Things I have learned in programming
> include modular is better than monolithic, and less code better than
> M$-style bloatware which systemd appears to be.

You should also have learned in programming the lines of code is a
virtually useless measuring stick.  OMG, the kernel has over four
million lines of code!  BREAK IT UP!

There is always a trade-off between modularity and functionality.
Sometimes modularity comes with a functionality and/or complexity cost.
PID 1 on a Unix-like system really does have special properties, and so
some functionality can only be implemented (at least in a practical
fashion) in PID 1.

Would you rather a bunch of that "magic" of PID 1 that systemd handles
get shoved into the kernel (so that PID 1 isn't so special)?

> Just what is Fedora's and Red Hat's Plan B when the revolt against
> systemd escalates ?   Whom is going to apologise for fouling-up Red
> Hat's EL and our beloved Centos ?

Yawn.  I haven't seen that there's a "revolt" except for a vocal
minority.  Some of the "no change" arguments sound very much similar to
the SELinux, xfs/ext4/ext3, Apache 2, gcc/egcs, glibc, ELF, etc.
arguments over the years.  A vocal group doesn't like change, argues
against it, and presents itself as the voice of the silent majority
(that somehow keep upgrading to new versions with all the terrible
changes).

-- 
Chris Adams <linux at cmadams.net>



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