On 08/02/2017 11:13 AM, John Hodrien wrote: > On Wed, 2 Aug 2017, Mark Haney wrote: > >> Sure there is such a thing. It's a tiled console package (tilix is >> what I use). In all honesty, I wouldn't want Libreoffice running in >> a container and I can't imagine why you'd want an xterm in its own >> container. Most containers I've built have been RESTful API >> containers, NGINX proxies/web servers, etc. I spend more time on the >> container host making changes, than in the containers themselves. If >> an API change has been made, I throw a new container up with that >> change and test, rarely, if ever, do I need access the container >> directly. And that's the idea behind containers if you ask me. > > Lots of people think of containers being for servers, as you say. It's > what > Docker lives off, and really does feel like the focus of Docker. > > Singularity lets you think somewhat differently, and has proved very > useful in > areas like HPC, where you want to let a user bring a software > environment to a > machine. You get people like OpenFOAM releasing their software as a > Docker > container: > > https://openfoam.org/download/4-1-linux/ > > I've also used it to run Ubuntu packaged software on CentOS without > having to > jump through hoops trying to repackage it or otherwise rebuild a million > dependencies in just the right way. > I honestly had forgotten about Singularity. Mainly because it's been a couple of years since I managed any HPC equipment. But seriously, I think of containers the same way I do linux tools. Unlike MS, a linux does does one thing, and that thing very well, whereas MS has tried to be everything to everyone and is so-so at all of them. Perhaps that was the original intention of container and it's morphed into something else over time, which, if true, means I need to adjust how I define it rather than trying to beat that square peg into the round hole in my head. On a side note, as I write this, Pandora decided to toss 'Misunderstading' by Phil Collins into my playlist. It's playing as I type. Go figure. -- Mark Haney Network Engineer at NeoNova 919-460-3330 option 1 mark.haney at neonova.net www.neonova.net