[CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

Wed Sep 25 15:15:31 UTC 2019
Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu>

On 2019-09-25 10:12, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On 25/09/2019 03:12, Fred Smith wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 11:54:34PM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 14:48:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:27:07 +0100
>>>> Liam O'Toole wrote:
>>>>> If the availability of a particular desktop environment is a
>>>>> showstopper, then perhaps RHEL and CentOS are not the best choice for
>>>>> you.
>>>> That may be, but in view of the fact that you can even get a version 
>>>> of CDE that works (very well) on Centos 7 
>>>> (https://github.com/dcantrell/cderpm if you're interested), I find 
>>>> it difficult to believe that a widely used and mature desktop like 
>>>> Mate will just disappear on a widely used and mature Linux 
>>>> distribution like Centos.
>>> I'm not suggesting that it will. A few years ago, soon after the source
>>> code of CDE was released, I downloaded, compiled, and installed CDE in a
>>> CentOS 6 VM. Why? Because I could. But would I conduct any serious
>>> business in that environment? Of course not. And why is that? Because it
>>> receives no enterprise support.
>>>> And since I've been using Centos for everything for a lot of years 
>>>> I'm not in a hurry to change to something else if I can avoid it.
>>>>>   Providing and maintaining
>>>>> alternative desktop environments over the (long) life cycle of 
>>>>> CentOS 8
>>>>> will require a sustained effort by volunteers over many years.
>>>> If that isn't being organized by someone at this time, I would be 
>>>> frankly surprised.
>>> It could well be that someone is organising it. On the other hand, it
>>> could be not. Either way, it will not be supported by RHEL and CentOS.
>>> What happens when a critical vulnerability is discovered in that
>>> software? Who will notify you of it? Who will fix it?
>>> At the time of writing, Mate in EPEL 7 is still at version 1.16. The
>>> upstream version is at 1.22. Have any critical vulnerabilities been
>>> fixed in the meantime? I have no idea. Do you?
>> Nope.
>> OTOH, if I was forced to use Gnome, I may well go shoot myself.
> Like they say, Linux is all about choice. :-)

And even better: there are UNIX (BSD rather) descendants too, so there 
is even more choice ;-)


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Valeri Galtsev
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