On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 11:54:34PM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 14:48:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:27:07 +0100 > > Liam O'Toole wrote: > > > > > If the availability of a particular desktop environment is a > > > showstopper, then perhaps RHEL and CentOS are not the best choice for > > > you. > > > > That may be, but in view of the fact that you can even get a version of CDE that works (very well) on Centos 7 (https://github.com/dcantrell/cderpm if you're interested), I find it difficult to believe that a widely used and mature desktop like Mate will just disappear on a widely used and mature Linux distribution like Centos. > > > > I'm not suggesting that it will. A few years ago, soon after the source > code of CDE was released, I downloaded, compiled, and installed CDE in a > CentOS 6 VM. Why? Because I could. But would I conduct any serious > business in that environment? Of course not. And why is that? Because it > receives no enterprise support. > > > And since I've been using Centos for everything for a lot of years I'm not in a hurry to change to something else if I can avoid it. > > > > > Providing and maintaining > > > alternative desktop environments over the (long) life cycle of CentOS 8 > > > will require a sustained effort by volunteers over many years. > > > > If that isn't being organized by someone at this time, I would be frankly surprised. > > It could well be that someone is organising it. On the other hand, it > could be not. Either way, it will not be supported by RHEL and CentOS. > What happens when a critical vulnerability is discovered in that > software? Who will notify you of it? Who will fix it? > > At the time of writing, Mate in EPEL 7 is still at version 1.16. The > upstream version is at 1.22. Have any critical vulnerabilities been > fixed in the meantime? I have no idea. Do you? Nope. OTOH, if I was forced to use Gnome, I may well go shoot myself. -- ---- Fred Smith -- fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us ----------------------------- "For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart." ---------------------------- Hebrews 4:12 (niv) ------------------------------