Il 07/08/20 10:47, Johnny Hughes ha scritto: > On 8/7/20 2:40 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: >> Il 07/08/20 08:22, Johnny Hughes ha scritto: >>>> "How on earth could this have passed Q & A ?" >> Hi Johnny, >> Niki's question is spread, legit, in the thoughts in many and many users >> so don't see this as an attack. Many and many users,though really "if >> this was tested before release" and I think that many of us are >> incredulous at what happened on CentOS and in the upstream (specially in >> the upstream) but as you said CentOS inherits RHEL bugs. I'm reading >> about many users that lost their trust in RH with the last 2 problem >> (microcode and shim). This is bad for CentOS. >> >>> Well, I mean that would be a valid point if it happened for every >>> install. The issue did not happen on every install. There is no way to >>> test every single hardware and firmware combination for every single >>> computer ever built :) >>> >>> It would be great if things like this did not happen, but with the >>> universe of possible combinations, i am surprised it does not happen >>> more often. >> Probably many users have not updated their machines between the bug >> release and the resolution (thanks to your fast apply in the weekend, >> thank you) and many update their centos machines on a 2 months base (if >> not worst). I think also that many users of CentOS user base have not >> proclamed their disappointement/the issue on this list or in other >> channels. For example I simply updated in the wrong time. >> >>> We do run boot tests of every single kernel for CentOS. The RHEL team >>> runs many more tests for RHEL. But every possible combination from >>> every vendor can't possibly be tested. Right? >> you are right but is not UEFI a standard and it shouldn't work the same >> on several vendors? I ask this because this patch broken all my uefi >> workstations. > It would be nice if it did .. however, this worked on many > UEFI/Secureboot machines. It did not work on a small subset of machines. > >> While CentOS team could not have so much resources to run this type of >> tests would be great to know what happened to RHEL QA (being RH giant) >> for this release and given the partenership between CentOS and RH if you >> know something more on this..... >> > I have not seen the full post event account if what actually happened. > I do know that many Red Hatters worked many hours over the last weekend > to fix it. I am sure a public post will be made (if not already there) > .. if someone knows where it is, post a link. > > If I don't see it posted soon, I'll look for it and post here. Thank you Johnny.