On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 11:15:04AM -0500, Rich Bowen wrote: > That page was never a contract. It's a web page published by an open source > project. Please do not misconstrue it as a contract. I don't think anyone seriously thought it was a contract. Open Source works largely on trust. Trust that the developers aren't going to intentionally harm their users, and the trust that those developers will provide a consistent product. Developers earn the trust of their users. Trust is the basic commodity for Open Source. That doesn't mean that open source providers always provide those things. There are many, many stories out there where upstream makes an abrupt change that their users dislike. And if you've broken that trust, end users are going to be wary of ever putting any more trust in the developers. Maybe the CentOS Stream thing will work out OK for everyone. But the way this was announced, there are a lot of people who have lost trust in CentOS and Red Hat. Changing the end of life for CentOS 8 has broken our trust in the project. I see a lot of promises that Stream will have better engagement with the community. Why would we trust these promises? -- Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>