[CentOS] Transition test report going from CentOS8 to Debian 10.

Fri Feb 5 17:20:44 UTC 2021
Lamar Owen <lowen at pari.edu>

On 2/5/21 11:32 AM, me at tdiehl.org wrote:
> Hi,
> On Thu, 4 Feb 2021, Warren Young wrote:
>> ...
>> 1. The package names are often different, and not always differing by an
>> obvious translation rule.  ...
> Yep!! It is a pita when trying to get things running for the first time.
> I started this journey on a couple samba DC's before the Red Hat 
> announcement.
> Libraries are almost always different names but even common packages 
> like dhcp
> and bind have different names, configuration files and commands to do 
> the same
> thing. Most of it is not that hard to figure out but it does take time 
> to do it and it is a lot more work than going from CentOS 7 to CentOS 8.
> ...

Maybe I'm just weird, but I don't find naming differences to be big 
differences.  Like I keep telling optical astronomers, radio astronomy 
is just observing at another wavelength; I get a lot of mean looks when 
I say that, too.  It's all light, why are humans so special that our 
three sensory passbands centered around 450nm, 540nm, and 575nm should 
be so important?  Why is the 400nm-700nm band more important than say 
1000nm to 1700nm other than human eyes' sensitivities?  Package naming 
is syntactic sugar, no more and no less, IMHO.

> Their systemd implementation is my biggest problem with Debian based 
> systems.
> ... It would be nice if they would make up their minds. Either bite the
> bullet and convert everything to systemd or stay with sysv :-( 
One of the contrasts between Debian and many others is the complete 
governance transparency.  In December 2019 they (where 'they' is the 
collective group of Debian Developers only, not users) voted on this 
issue; the process and results are documented here: 
https://www.debian.org/vote/2019/vote_002  In a nutshell, Debian moved 
closer to focusing entirely on systemd; people interested in 
alternatives have to provide the tooling and work themselves. Looking in 
unstable should show the current state of the systemd integration; 
stable is too old to reflect this vote.  So I would expect Bullseye 
(Debian 11) to have a more integrated systemd.