[CentOS] Challenging times in trying to access oracle Linux documentation

Sun Feb 7 01:05:08 UTC 2021
Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu>

> On Feb 6, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 at 15:57, Frank Cox <theatre at sasktel.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 15:22:21 -0500
>> Jonathan Billings wrote:
>> 1.) you assume people will clearly label their off topic threads
>> I think that in most cases that will happen, yes, since people with a
>> technical background understand that clarity and precision are important
>> when posting a question or observation or asking for advice.
>> 2.) as we’ve seen, those off topic threads often weave in and out of
>> on-topic threads until a moderator tells you to take it to another venue.
>> Which of course never happens now with threads that start off discussing
>> some aspect of Centos?
>>> You’ll dilute the usefulness of this list to the point that it will be
>>> worthless for people who are interested in CentOS topics.
>> In your opinion.  On average, this is not a high-traffic mailing list and
>> I'd be really surprised if the traffic actually increased in any
>> significant way since a question that might today be asked about Centos
>> will be asked tomorrow about Rocky; either way, there's no net increase in
>> the traffic, just a change in the subject line.
> I have now administered mailing lists for 25+ years and I have found that
> what happens is that off-topic traffic basically causes an echo chamber
> effect over time. The people having the side conversations get louder and
> louder over time not because the list gets larger but because they have
> 'driven' off the people who were here for a specific focus. The people
> remaining become more and more of an echo chamber moving the 'topic' to
> being wha
> I realize that this has been a traumatic split in the culture for a lot of
> people (myself included), but there is a point where the list main topic of
> discussion will be on how to use/administer/fix CentOS Stream and CentOS-7
> versus Oracle/FreeBSD/Rocky/Alma/Debian/Slackware/etc.
> I can ask for a generic-enterprise-nix (genix?) list on the CentOS mailman
> and see if that can take up the traffic for the people who feel that they
> want and need to talk about alternatives. If that is acceptable then people
> can subscribe there and talk in detail about other operating systems
> choices.  I do believe these conversations do need to happen but not
> everyone wants to hear the 4 Yorkshiremen skit every day as we 'old-timers'
> deal with our past.

When wise man gives a solution, I always think: how come this never occurred to me?

Thank you, Stephen. I hope, someone of CentOS mail list admins makes that new list you suggested. Then the heat will be off both groups of people.


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