On 1/22/21 11:42 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 22/01/2021 à 18:04, Valeri Galtsev a écrit : >> I tried SUSE maybe 2-3 years later than you (around 2003). The first thing I >> disliked was: they have yast on top of standard configurations. First of >> all, it is quite unpleasant to deal with: infinitely long single file >> containing all configs. Next, you change one single thing, and yast to >> enable your change touches all config files. Some time after you made some >> change you discover something (unrelated) doesn’t work anymore, and you can >> not use timestamps to investigate when bad change happened and how. I was >> joking about SUSE with my German friends: how come German tool is named as >> abbreviation of English (yet another system tool), not German? > > All the hardcore distribution users out there (Slackware, Arch, Gentoo, Crux, > FreeBSD) like to make fun of YaST. > Never heard FreeBSD folks making fun of anybody else, including SUSE. And I'm on their lists for very long time. I would say they are the most generous, considerate, and forgiving folk of all technical lists I have been on. Valeri > Ever tried to connect any Linux or BSD desktop to an LDAPS server running Red > Hat Directory Server for authentication? > > With YaST it's done in less than 30 seconds in half a dozen mouse clicks, and > it JustWorks(tm). > > I know because I'm using it in our local school. > > Now try and do the same thing on Debian, FreeBSD, Slackware or one of the > *buntus. You'll get a vague idea of what hell looks like. > > :o) > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++