> Am 25.01.2021 um 17:04 schrieb Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org>: > > On 1/22/21 5:12 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> On 1/22/21 9:29 AM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote: >>>> Hence it is as good as dead in my mind when looking into the future, I >>>> am looking for future distro of choice. >>> >>> A little mentioned choice would be openSUSE, which is direction I am taking. >> >> I do not like system where configuration app can overwrite manualy set >> config. I started with ClarkConnect in 2005-2006 and to route public >> subnet into my network I had to delete last iptables command then add my >> own, but only after config system did it's own iptables commands. I had >> to learn iptables before any other Linux commands and although I >> mastered it, it is left in unpleasant memory (it took me weeks and help >> from rare Linux admins to find a solution). >> >> I did try SUSE around 2000 but it was complicated to do manual changes >> (if it was not provided in YAST), so after ClarkConnect I had no desire >> to even experiment with YAST. >> >> > > I have no issues with OpenSUSE .. but how is OpenSUSE any better than > CentOS Stream? openSUSE is honest. The CentOS project, RedHat, you, lied to us when you published CentOS 8 and claiming it would be supported until 2029. We believed you because of the good reputation you had built up with previous CentOS releases. We suggested CentOS 8 to our customers. And we have been badly f***ed the a**. Sorry for the wording that you may assume, but that is how it is. > It is not like we are rolling rawhide packages into CentOS Stream. They > are updating already created Enterprise Packages in current RHEL with > Bug Fixes and Security Fixes and a small number of rebases (Enhamcments > Fixes). But the enhancements are not from Rawhide, they are rebases > very close to the current releases. > > Again .. absolutely nothing wrong with using OpenSUSE (or Ubuntu or > Debian, etc). I just do not see the advantage. I see one big advantage: These are honest projects, while you are liars. > > I mean, I get it, some people are very upset with the new way CentOS is > being done. And obviously people get to think what they think. But > when this was announced, it was also announced that RHEL was going to be > opened up early in Q1 of 2021 (which has happened and is still happening). So where is the option to install a RHEL system at a customer site, like I was able with CentOS? Really, you (as in the CentOS project) totally screwed it. > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos