[CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

Mon Mar 1 17:23:11 UTC 2021
Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu>

On 3/1/21 11:02 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
>> On 3/1/21 10:27 AM, Jay Hart wrote:
>>>>> Am 01.03.21 um 15:56 schrieb Simon Matter:
>>>>>>> On 3/1/21 2:57 PM, Simon Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> I was looking at Roundcube but it seems difficult on EL8 because a
>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> PHP stuff is missing and not available as RPMs. I guess the same is
>>>>>>>> true
>>>>>>>> for the python things needed for Mailpile. In the end my list only
>>>>>>>> contains Cypht, Rainloop and Afterlogic Webmail lite.
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Have you considered to run the official Roundcube container image as
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> podmans systemd service?
>>>>>>> https://hub.docker.com/r/roundcube/roundcubemail/
>>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/improved-systemd-podman (Podman >=
>>>>>>> 2.0
>>>>>>> required, but it's only a systemd service file to be created
>>>>>>> manually)
>>>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>>> Thanks for your suggestion. No, I'm not really thinking about
>>>>>> docker/podman. I prefer having clean system installs, even if I have
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> create RPMs myself. This has worked fine for the last two decades but
>>>>>> yes,
>>>>>> I'm afraid, this is considered old school these days :-)
>>>>> Hey Simon, take a look at Remi's repository ...
>>>>> --
>>>>> Leon
>>>> Hi Leon, thanks.
>>>> I'm wondering why these things are not in EPEL?
>>>> Simon
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>>> Simon,
>>> I'm in same boat as you. I have a C6 machine running squirrelmail that
>>> I've been trying to get upgraded. I bought a new machine and have
>>> C8 installed, postfix, dovecot, SA, the works, running.  But, I couldn't
>>> get squirrelmail running.
>>> I'm also very interested in the answer to this question, "what webmail
>>> to run on C8" (or stream in the future).  I've looked at the same
>>> SW apps you have and have not really gotten a warm fuzzy over anything.
>>> I wonder if another tact to take would be to try to get squirrelmail
>>> more "modern". I know Les is still doing a bit of dev, but it does
>>> seem like squirrelmail is lagging behind.
>> I know this is irrelevant to CentOS and RedHat Enterprise, as I run
>> these on FreeBSD (in separate dedicated jail). I do have both of them:
>> roundcube and squirrelmail. When I tell my users about the options, I
>> tell them roundcube is modern and fancy. Squirrelmail, though same good,
>> is more older style. So, they have choices to match their taste.
>> And again, this is irrelevant to Linux. But both roundcube and
>> squirrelmail will not be phased out in close future (my own estimate),
>> though squirrelmail has reached the stage when new features will not be
>> added (nothing bad about that in my book).
>> Valeri
> Hi Valeri, I've just checked FreeBSD ports:
> - squirrelmail latest with php 8

Just for record: list of available packages (note PHP version):


> - roundcube 1.4.11 (latest) with php 7.4
> - rainloop 1.15.0 (latest) with php 8
> - horde-webmail 5.2.22 (latest) with php 8
> Once again a slap in my face as an EL user :-)
> But I have an idea, I'll look at the squirrelmail port closely and see how
> I can include the updated code in my RPMs. Sounds like a solution - or
> move everything to FreeBSD. I'm running a FreeBSD test VM for years and I
> really like the upgrades the FreeBSD way!

Running things in FreeBSD jails (only inseparable things in the same 
jail) makes things extremely easy: such as upgrades to higher version, 
updates, migration of servers, or when what you need depends on 
different things which are incompatible. Several servers I run do not 
exist as a machines, or individual systems: a host may be a bunch of 
(2-5) different jails.

And I for one consider FreeBSD jails much more secure and significantly 
slimmer an any virtualization solutions on Linux. But don't ask me to 
prove the point ;-)


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Valeri Galtsev
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Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
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