On Mon, 9 Jan 2023, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Yeah. Going to work on it some more today. Plus got a finish a paper > for a symposium. I give up on learning tex; I found a word template > that can create the right pdf, so pull out all my writing in tex and > start over. And I DO use the IETF's xml format for creating Internet > Drafts, so I am teachable on this stuff despite my age... Are you trying to use tex directly? Latex is written on top of tex and might be easier. -- Michael hennebry at mail.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman