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Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox
by Les Bell 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

Les Mikesell <lesmikesell(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> What's a 'trusted' forwarding mean as opposed to any other kind? << A trusted X11 client will bypass the security controls specified in the X11 Security Extension Specification (see http://refspecs.freestandards.org/X11/security.pdf) In general, you don't want to enable this unless you have to. Notice that "trusted forwarding" trusts the users to all be good guys. (In fact, if you're on a trusted network, you shouldn't need to use SSH at all, since you trust the devices (and their users) attached to the network not to do nasty things like network sniffing, MitM attacks, etc.). Best, --- Les Bell, RHCE, CISSP [http://www.lesbell.com.au] Tel: +61 2 9451 1144 FreeWorldDialup: 800909

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remote ssh to machine how display firefox
by Jerry Geis 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

I can ssh into a remote machine. I can start X on that machine with startx How do I then start firefox on that machine (from the ssh prompt) and have it display on my machine in my office. So I want to be using firefox on the remote machine but displaying the screen output from firefox in my office. Both boxes are running centos 5. how is that done? Jerry

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lmsensors sensors.conf file for gigabyte GA7N400 Pro2
by fred smith 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

Having done my fresh 5.0 install a couple months ago I'm slowly getting things back in to working condition. Decided last night to try setting up lmsensors. Got it all set up (modules, etc taken care of) and it runs and reports values, but some of 'em a clearly wrong with the default sensors.conf Trying to use the old sensors.conf I used on Centos 4 produces even more whacked-out results, so I guess that's not the solution. Perusing the documentation, it seems that one can configure it properly only if one knows a lot more about the hardware than one typically knows. So, I'm wondering if anyone out there has a working config file for a Gigabyte GA-7N400 Pro2 motherboard that works on Centos 5.1? here's what I get with it as it stands right now: it8712-isa-0290 Adapter: ISA adapter VCore 1: +1.68 V (min = +1.42 V, max = +1.57 V) ALARM VCore 2: +2.54 V (min = +2.40 V, max = +2.61 V) +3.3V: +3.23 V (min = +3.14 V, max = +3.47 V) +5V: +4.99 V (min = +4.74 V, max = +5.25 V) +12V: +11.90 V (min = +11.39 V, max = +12.61 V) -12V: -15.70 V (min = -12.63 V, max = -11.41 V) ALARM -5V: -8.10 V (min = -5.26 V, max = -4.77 V) ALARM Stdby: +4.57 V (min = +4.76 V, max = +5.24 V) ALARM VBat: +4.08 V fan1: 2556 RPM (min = 0 RPM, div = 8) fan2: 2083 RPM (min = 3013 RPM, div = 8) ALARM fan3: 1591 RPM (min = 3013 RPM, div = 8) ALARM M/B Temp: +30°C (low = +15°C, high = +40°C) sensor = thermistor CPU Temp: +26°C (low = +15°C, high = +45°C) sensor = thermistor Temp3: +57°C (low = +15°C, high = +45°C) sensor = diode That -12v at -15.70 is pretty obviously wrong, as is the -5 at -8.10, and the other voltages getting ALARMs are probably wrong too, though not by as much. The MB and CPU temps shown by the BIOS are 29 and 53, so that 26 shown as CPU temp here is likely bogus. One wonders if the Temp3 is actually the CPU temp instead. (my old config used Temp2 for that, tho). Advice will be appreciated. Thanks! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- .---- Fred Smith / ( /__ ,__. __ __ / __ : / / / / /__) / / /__) .+' Home: fredex(a)fcshome.stoneham.ma.us / / (__ (___ (__(_ (___ / :__ 781-438-5471 -------------------------------- Jude 1:24,25 ---------------------------------

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Re: [CentOS] Where are my VIM colors?
by David G. Miller 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

Rainer Traut <tr.ml(a)gmx.de> wrote: > israel.garcia(a)cimex.com.cu schrieb: > >> > Maybe, it's stupid question but I've just installed CentOS5 and when I'm >> > going to edit some of my conf files I see no colors as it did in old >> > CentOS4x... >> > I'm using: >> > >> > [root@domian:~]$ echo $TERM >> > xterm >> > > Take a look at: > > # cat /etc/profile.d/vim.sh > if [ -n "$BASH_VERSION" -o -n "$KSH_VERSION" -o -n "$ZSH_VERSION" ]; then > [ -x /usr/bin/id ] || return > [ `/usr/bin/id -u` -le 100 ] && return > # for bash and zsh, only if no alias is already set > alias vi >/dev/null 2>&1 || alias vi=vim > fi > > So you do not get vim for root... > > Hth > Rainer Right answer. I just checked on my CentOS 4.5 box and: [root@fraud default]# which vi alias vi='vim' /usr/bin/vim but on my CentOS 5.1 box root gets: [root@bend etc]# which vi /bin/vi while users get: [dave@bend ~]# which vi vi: aliased to vim So vim is probably correctly installed on the 5.1 box but root no longer gets an alias to it. This is actually correct since root should be able to log in and have full functionality with just the programs in /bin, /sbin, etc. In particular, root shouldn't be dependent on anything under /usr. Cheers, Dave -- Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. -- Ambrose Bierce

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rpc.idmapd error after upgrade to 5.1
by Olaf Mueller 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

Hello, after upgrade from CentOS 5 to 5.1 I see the following error in /var/log/messages: 'rpc.idmapd[2330]: main: open(/var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs/nfs): No such file or directory' The directory exists with the permissions dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 7 10:21 nfs So is this an owner/permisson problem? Should /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs/nfs be owned by rpcuser? # ls -al /var/lib/nfs/ total 24 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Dec 7 10:21 . drwxr-xr-x 29 root root 4096 Dec 3 07:25 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 701 Dec 7 10:21 etab -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 685 Dec 3 07:24 rmtab drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 0 Dec 7 10:21 rpc_pipefs drwx------ 4 rpcuser rpcuser 4096 Nov 12 07:37 statd -rw------- 1 root root 0 Nov 12 07:37 state drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Dec 7 11:24 v4recovery -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Nov 12 07:37 xtab My settings for /etc/sysconfig/nfs: SECURE_NFS="no" SECURE_NFS_MODS="noload" RPCMTAB="noload" RPCNFSDCOUNT=32 RPCNFSDPRIORITY=16 RPCMOUNTDOPTS="--nfs-version 4" RPCNFSDARGS="--port 2049 --no-nfs-version 3 --no-nfs-version 2" #RPCGSSDARGS="-vvv" #RPCSVCGSSDARGS="-vvv" MOUNTD_NFS_V2="no" MOUNTD_NFS_V3="no" regards Olaf

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce(a)centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request(a)centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner(a)centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CESA-2007:1049 Important CentOS 3 ia64 kernel - security update (Pasi Pirhonen) 2. CESA-2007:1049 Important CentOS 3 s390(x) kernel - security update (Pasi Pirhonen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 21:17:18 +0200 From: Pasi Pirhonen <upi(a)centos.fi> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2007:1049 Important CentOS 3 ia64 kernel - security update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20071207191718.GC16424(a)centos.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2007:1049 https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2007-1049.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ia64: updates/ia64/RPMS/kernel-2.4.21-53.EL.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/kernel-doc-2.4.21-53.EL.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.21-53.EL.ia64.rpm updates/ia64/RPMS/kernel-unsupported-2.4.21-53.EL.ia64.rpm -- Pasi Pirhonen - upi(a)iki.fi - http://pasi.pirhonen.eu/ Top-postings silently ignored

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Chipset support for 6750 Intel CPUs
by Drew Weaver 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

Howdy, We've noticed that the new chipsets required for the **50 series of intel processors is not supported in CentOS 5. We've tried the DG31 board which (realtek nic unsupported) DG33 no support for disk controller or NICs. We also tried the dx38bt and there was no support. Fedora 8 apparently works great with all of the boards we tried. My question is, will there these boards not be supported via the installer until CentOS 6? I realize that the driver support comes from upstream, but it would be cool if they made a easy way to use a newer/updated kernel in the installer. Thanks, -Drew

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yum upgrade fails on pm-utils dependancy
by James A. Peltier 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

I just tried to perform a yum upgrade on my CentOS 5 machine and it failed on a pm-utils >= 0.99.3-6 is needed by package hal error. I rsync my repos every night. This is the first time it's happened sudo yum -y upgrade Loading "installonlyn" plugin Loading "priorities" plugin Setting up Upgrade Process Setting up repositories updates 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00 base 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 addons 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00 extras 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 74 kB 00:00 updates : ################################################## 128/128 Added 128 new packages, deleted 0 old in 4.23 seconds primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 798 kB 00:00 base : ################################################## 2334/2334 Added 2334 new packages, deleted 0 old in 58.26 seconds primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 157 B 00:00 Added 0 new packages, deleted 0 old in 0.01 seconds primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 60 kB 00:00 extras : ################################################## 190/190 Added 190 new packages, deleted 0 old in 4.10 seconds 0 packages excluded due to repository priority protections Resolving Dependencies --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. ---> Downloading header for selinux-policy-targeted to pack into transaction set. selinux-policy-targeted-2 100% |=========================| 46 kB 00:00 ---> Package selinux-policy-targeted.noarch 0:2.4.6-106.el5_1.3 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for samba-common to pack into transaction set. samba-common-3.0.25b-1.el 100% |=========================| 43 kB 00:00 ---> Package samba-common.i386 0:3.0.25b-1.el5_1.2 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for hal to pack into transaction set. hal-0.5.8.1-25.el5_1.1.i3 100% |=========================| 43 kB 00:00 ---> Package hal.i386 0:0.5.8.1-25.el5_1.1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for pcre-devel to pack into transaction set. pcre-devel-6.6-2.el5_1.7. 100% |=========================| 10 kB 00:00 ---> Package pcre-devel.i386 0:6.6-2.el5_1.7 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for tetex to pack into transaction set. tetex-3.0-33.2.el5_1.2.i3 100% |=========================| 245 kB 00:00 ---> Package tetex.i386 0:3.0-33.2.el5_1.2 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for kernel-devel to pack into transaction set. kernel-devel-2.6.18-53.1. 100% |=========================| 746 kB 00:00 ---> Package kernel-devel.i686 0:2.6.18-53.1.4.el5 set to be installed ---> Downloading header for tetex-dvips to pack into transaction set. tetex-dvips-3.0-33.2.el5_ 100% |=========================| 73 kB 00:00 ---> Package tetex-dvips.i386 0:3.0-33.2.el5_1.2 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for ruby-libs to pack into transaction set. ruby-libs-1.8.5-5.el5_1.1 100% |=========================| 74 kB 00:00 ---> Package ruby-libs.i386 0:1.8.5-5.el5_1.1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for selinux-policy to pack into transaction set. selinux-policy-2.4.6-106. 100% |=========================| 71 kB 00:00 ---> Package selinux-policy.noarch 0:2.4.6-106.el5_1.3 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for cups-libs to pack into transaction set. cups-libs-1.2.4-11.14.el5 100% |=========================| 40 kB 00:00 ---> Package cups-libs.i386 1:1.2.4-11.14.el5_1.3 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for nscd to pack into transaction set. nscd-2.5-18.el5_1.1.i386. 100% |=========================| 104 kB 00:00 ---> Package nscd.i386 0:2.5-18.el5_1.1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for cairo to pack into transaction set. cairo-1.2.4-3.el5_1.i386. 100% |=========================| 9.4 kB 00:00 ---> Package cairo.i386 0:1.2.4-3.el5_1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for poppler-utils to pack into transaction set. poppler-utils-0.5.4-4.3.e 100% |=========================| 7.1 kB 00:00 ---> Package poppler-utils.i386 0:0.5.4-4.3.el5_1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for openib to pack into transaction set. openib-1.2-6.el5_1.1.i386 100% |=========================| 12 kB 00:00 ---> Package openib.i386 0:1.2-6.el5_1.1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for glibc-devel to pack into transaction set. glibc-devel-2.5-18.el5_1. 100% |=========================| 109 kB 00:00 ---> Package glibc-devel.i386 0:2.5-18.el5_1.1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for hal-gnome to pack into transaction set. hal-gnome-0.5.8.1-25.el5_ 100% |=========================| 24 kB 00:00 ---> Package hal-gnome.i386 0:0.5.8.1-25.el5_1.1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for net-snmp-libs to pack into transaction set. net-snmp-libs-5.3.1-19.el 100% |=========================| 27 kB 00:00 ---> Package net-snmp-libs.i386 1:5.3.1-19.el5_1.2 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for ruby-mode to pack into transaction set. ruby-mode-1.8.5-5.el5_1.1 100% |=========================| 21 kB 00:00 ---> Package ruby-mode.i386 0:1.8.5-5.el5_1.1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for samba to pack into transaction set. samba-3.0.25b-1.el5_1.2.i 100% |=========================| 115 kB 00:00 ---> Package samba.i386 0:3.0.25b-1.el5_1.2 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for ruby to pack into transaction set. ruby-1.8.5-5.el5_1.1.i386 100% |=========================| 36 kB 00:00 ---> Package ruby.i386 0:1.8.5-5.el5_1.1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for pcre to pack into transaction set. pcre-6.6-2.el5_1.7.i386.r 100% |=========================| 7.4 kB 00:00 ---> Package pcre.i386 0:6.6-2.el5_1.7 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for kdegraphics-devel to pack into transaction set. kdegraphics-devel-3.5.4-5 100% |=========================| 32 kB 00:00 ---> Package kdegraphics-devel.i386 7:3.5.4-5.el5_1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for kdebase-devel to pack into transaction set. kdebase-devel-3.5.4-15.el 100% |=========================| 62 kB 00:00 ---> Package kdebase-devel.i386 6:3.5.4-15.el5.centos.1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for util-linux to pack into transaction set. util-linux-2.13-0.45.el5_ 100% |=========================| 64 kB 00:00 ---> Package util-linux.i386 0:2.13-0.45.el5_1.1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for kernel-headers to pack into transaction set. kernel-headers-2.6.18-53. 100% |=========================| 167 kB 00:00 ---> Package kernel-headers.i386 0:2.6.18-53.1.4.el5 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for samba-client to pack into transaction set. samba-client-3.0.25b-1.el 100% |=========================| 38 kB 00:00 ---> Package samba-client.i386 0:3.0.25b-1.el5_1.2 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for kdegraphics to pack into transaction set. kdegraphics-3.5.4-5.el5_1 100% |=========================| 106 kB 00:00 ---> Package kdegraphics.i386 7:3.5.4-5.el5_1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for glibc-common to pack into transaction set. glibc-common-2.5-18.el5_1 100% |=========================| 723 kB 00:00 ---> Package glibc-common.i386 0:2.5-18.el5_1.1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for cairo-devel to pack into transaction set. cairo-devel-1.2.4-3.el5_1 100% |=========================| 15 kB 00:00 ---> Package cairo-devel.i386 0:1.2.4-3.el5_1 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be updated ---> Downloading header for xorg-x11-drv-keyboard to pack into transaction set. xorg-x11-drv-keyboard-1.1 100% |=========================| 3.7 kB 00:00 ---> Package xorg-x11-drv-keyboard.i386 0:1.1.0-3 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for firefox to pack into transaction set. firefox-1.5.0.12-7.el5.ce 100% |=========================| 99 kB 00:00 ---> Package firefox.i386 0:1.5.0.12-7.el5.centos set to be updated ---> Downloading header for htdig to pack into transaction set. htdig-3.2.0b6-9.0.1.el5_1 100% |=========================| 23 kB 00:00 ---> Package htdig.i386 3:3.2.0b6-9.0.1.el5_1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for rsh-server to pack into transaction set. rsh-server-0.17-38.el5.i3 100% |=========================| 12 kB 00:00 ---> Package rsh-server.i386 0:0.17-38.el5 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for tetex-latex to pack into transaction set. tetex-latex-3.0-33.2.el5_ 100% |=========================| 250 kB 00:00 ---> Package tetex-latex.i386 0:3.0-33.2.el5_1.2 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for logrotate to pack into transaction set. logrotate-3.7.4-8.i386.rp 100% |=========================| 10 kB 00:00 ---> Package logrotate.i386 0:3.7.4-8 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for ruby-devel to pack into transaction set. ruby-devel-1.8.5-5.el5_1. 100% |=========================| 22 kB 00:00 ---> Package ruby-devel.i386 0:1.8.5-5.el5_1.1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for tetex-fonts to pack into transaction set. tetex-fonts-3.0-33.2.el5_ 100% |=========================| 760 kB 00:00 ---> Package tetex-fonts.i386 0:3.0-33.2.el5_1.2 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for poppler to pack into transaction set. poppler-0.5.4-4.3.el5_1.i 100% |=========================| 25 kB 00:00 ---> Package poppler.i386 0:0.5.4-4.3.el5_1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for kernel to pack into transaction set. kernel-2.6.18-53.1.4.el5. 100% |=========================| 254 kB 00:00 ---> Package kernel.i686 0:2.6.18-53.1.4.el5 set to be installed ---> Downloading header for hal-devel to pack into transaction set. hal-devel-0.5.8.1-25.el5_ 100% |=========================| 20 kB 00:00 ---> Package hal-devel.i386 0:0.5.8.1-25.el5_1.1 set to be updated ---> Downloading header for kdebase to pack into transaction set. kdebase-3.5.4-15.el5.cent 100% |=========================| 551 kB 00:00 ---> Package kdebase.i386 6:3.5.4-15.el5.centos.1 set to be updated --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: pm-utils >= 0.99.3-6 for package: hal --> Finished Dependency Resolution --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. ---> Package kernel-devel.i686 0:2.6.18-8.el5 set to be erased ---> Package kernel.i686 0:2.6.18-8.el5 set to be erased --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: pm-utils >= 0.99.3-6 for package: hal --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: pm-utils >= 0.99.3-6 is needed by package hal -- James A. Peltier Technical Director, RHCE SCIRF | GrUVi @ Simon Fraser University - Burnaby Campus Phone : 778-782-3610 Fax : 778-782-3045 Mobile : 778-840-6434 E-Mail : jpeltier(a)cs.sfu.ca Website : http://gruvi.cs.sfu.ca | http://scirf.cs.sfu.ca MSN : subatomic_spam(a)hotmail.com

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LDAP and Automount
by Camron W. Fox 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

Alle, I'm following the instructions in section 19.3.3.2 of the docs @ http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.1/Deployment_Guide/s2-nfs-config-autofs…, but I cannot add the following entry in LDAP: dn: automountMapName=auto.home,dc=subaru,dc=nao,dc=ac,dc=jp objectClass: top objectClass: automountMap automountMapName: auto.home After looking at the schemas in /etc/openldap/schema, I find that "automountMapName" does not exist: [root@loa schema]# find . -exec grep auto {} \; -ls attributetype ( 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.25 NAME 'automountInformation' DESC 'Information used by the autofs automounter' objectclass ( 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.13 NAME 'automount' SUP top STRUCTURAL DESC 'An entry in an automounter map' MUST ( cn $ automountInformation ) objectclass ( 1.3.6.1.4.1.2312.4.2.2 NAME 'automountMap' SUP top STRUCTURAL DESC 'An group of related automount objects' 4425955 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 748 Nov 10 04:30 ./redhat/autofs.schema [root@loa schema]# The docs say RFC2307bis is the most recently established schema, but as far as I can tell, it has expired. I've found several references on line about nisMapName vs automountMapName, but I'd like to stay with what's documented. Am I missing something? We're trying to setup a server to use for both Linux and SPARC client authentication. Best Regards, Camron -- Camron W. Fox Hilo Office High Performance Computing Group Fujitsu America, INC. E-mail: cwfox(a)us.fujitsu.com

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Re: [CentOS] remote ssh to machine how display firefox
by Les Bell 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

Bill Campbell <centos(a)celestial.com> wrote: >> >(In fact, if you're on a trusted network, you shouldn't need to use SSH at >all, since you trust the devices (and their users) attached to the network >not to do nasty things like network sniffing, MitM attacks, etc.). True enough, but ssh makes the X11 DISPLAY things so easy! One doesn't have to much with xhosts and such. << Let me amplify (sorry for another post!): I was really making a point about the nature of trust, not the convenience of SSH. If you think you want to enabled trusted forwarding (-Y), ask yourself "Would I be happy telneting into this host?". If the answer is yes, then use trusted forwarding. If the answer is no, then don't. Best, --- Les Bell, RHCE, CISSP [http://www.lesbell.com.au] Tel: +61 2 9451 1144 FreeWorldDialup: 800909

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