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Upgrade GTK2 from 2.10 to 2.12 ?
by Niki Kovacs 27 May '09

27 May '09

Hi, I'm using CentOS 5.3 on all my desktops, and I really like it. Now I'd like to build a few additional apps that aren't included in any third party repo. Some of them require GTK2 2.12 to build, so I'm considering a (careful) upgrade of this package. General question: 1) how "safe" is it to upgrade this package? To do so, I'd use an SRPM from Fedora. 2) What could I possible "break" on a vanilla CentOS install by doing this? Cheers from the sunny South of France, Niki Kovacs

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 51, Issue 13
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 27 May '09

27 May '09

Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce(a)centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request(a)centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner(a)centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. New list: CentOS-Mirror-Announce (Ralph Angenendt) 2. Re: New list: CentOS-Mirror-Announce (Ralph Angenendt) 3. Release of the CentOS Directory Server (Tim Verhoeven) 4. CentOS 5 i386 - The CentOS-5.3 i386 Live CD is released (Karanbir Singh) 5. CESA-2009:1066 Important CentOS 3 i386 squirrelmail - security update (Tru Huynh) 6. CESA-2009:1066 Important CentOS 3 x86_64 squirrelmail - security update (Tru Huynh) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:38:07 +0200 From: Ralph Angenendt <ralph(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] New list: CentOS-Mirror-Announce To: centos-announce(a)centos.org, centos-mirror(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20090526193807.GA19124(a)br-online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, there's a new CentOS mailing list on the block: CentOS-mirror-announce This list is for announcement from the CentOS team to public mirror admins, containing trivia like issues with our mirror network, new releases, changes in how we do mirroring and so on. This list is thought to be for those busy mirror admins, who don't want to follow the centos-mirror list due to too many postings. CentOS-mirror-announce is a very low traffic mailing list. CentOS-mirror-announce is *not* a discussion list. Mirror admins will still be required to announce their newly created mirrors, but if you decide that the traffic gets too much for you, you can subscribe to the mirror-announcement list. The mirror list is subscribed to receive a daily digest of CentOS-mirror-announce, so non-subscribers of the announcement list will not miss any mails going to that list. On behalf of the CentOS team, Ralph Angenendt

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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] CentOS 5 i386 - The CentOS-5.3 i386 Live CD is released
by Radu-Cristian FOTESCU 27 May '09

27 May '09

--- On Wed, 5/27/09, Toby Bluhm <tkb(a)alltechmedusa.com> wrote: > Niki Kovacs wrote: > > Ladislav Bodnar a écrit : > > > > > Hey, didn't you abandon Linux and switch to Windows > > > not long ago? I remember > > > you making a big deal out of this on your blog. Or > > > did you change your mind > > > again? Was the Windows world that bad? What's really nice is that Ladislav, the promoter of FLOSS, is banning me *by the IP* to comment on his DWW, although it was not me the most non-courteous commenter there. What I however did was to post on my blog "Boycott DistroWatch" (with application of Godwin's Law), and he couldn't stand that, it seems. I guess this is called 'rancor' (FR rancune). Of course, discussing on mailing lists is still possible... > What's really nice is when some fixing goes along with that > spotting. Fixing of what? Regards, R-C __________________________________________________________________ Get the name you've always wanted @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com! Go to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/

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Re: [CentOS] Upgrade GTK2 from 2.10 to 2.12 ?
by Radu-Cristian FOTESCU 27 May '09

27 May '09

--- On Wed, 5/27/09, Niki Kovacs <contact(a)kikinovak.net> wrote: > Some of them require GTK2 2.12 to build, so I'm > considering a (careful) upgrade of this package. > > General question: 1) how "safe" is it to upgrade this > package? To do so, I'd use an SRPM from Fedora. > 2) What could I possible "break" on a > vanilla CentOS install by doing this? Niki, what would be those applications? I personally find GIMP 2.2 as "too obsolete", and this is because some algorithms are improved in GIMP 2.4 (no, I don't need GIMP 2.6, which is btw somewhat buggier). OTOH, I've found on the forums that GIMP 2.4 would build with GTK+ 2.10.13, whereas CentOS 5 comes with GTK+ 2.10.4 only :-( See: http://centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=11086 As a personal opinion, I suppose Firefox might be the first to be affected by a GTK+2 upgrade, as it seems quite fragile. Stupid question: would it be possible to build those applications (e.g. a newer GIMP, for instance) with STATIC builds of some newer libs, y compris gtk2? This way the newer libs shouldn't be used by anybody else, so they shouldn't break anything, right? Cheers, R-C __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca

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Sparse LUN's
by Daniel Bird 27 May '09

27 May '09

Hi All, I've been chasing down a problem with LUN masking on CentOS5/RHEL5 hosts with QLogic HBA's for a few hours and seem to have got to an impass; Any device (disks in my case) on Non-sequential LUN's are not registered with the OS. This happens across various HBA models and kernel versions. FYI, I'm currently running the latest qlogic qla2xxx drivers (8.02.14.01) against kernel 2.6.18-128.1.10.el5 x86_64 For example if the LUN mask is set to 0,1,2,3 then all is OK and all disks are configured. However, a mask of LUN 0 & 9 will not see the disks on LUN 9. It appears the kernel stops scanning when there is a gap in the LUN list. I read in a number of places how to fix this issue, and indeed here: http://filedownloads.qlogic.com/files/driver/48437/README_qla2xxx2-6U4.htm#… Apparently, I should be able to add a line to modprobe.conf that allows sparse LUNs. So I followed the instructions and added options scsi_mod dev_flags="SUN:CSM200_R:0x040" max_luns=20 and rebuilt initrd. This doesn't seem to work, as only LUN 0 is configured by the OS despite LUN 9 also being unmasked. I've also tried options scsi_mod default_dev_flags=0x040 max_luns=20 in modprobe.conf with no luck [root@host qlogic]# cat /proc/scsi/qla2xxx/1 <snip> SCSI LUN Information: (Id:Lun) * - indicates lun is not registered with the OS. ( 0: 0): Total reqs 144, Pending reqs 0, flags 0x2, Dflags 0x0, 0:0:83 00 ( 0: 9): Total reqs 0, Pending reqs 0, flags 0x0*, Dflags 0x0, 0:0:83 00 [root@sgulfs-data1 ~]# cat /proc/scsi/scsi Attached devices: <snip> Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: SUN Model: CSM200_R Rev: 0616 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 03 I can however do echo "scsi add-single-device 1 0 0 9" > /proc/scsi/scsi to enable LUN 9 and the disk is then configured. I've ended up writing a script in rc.local to enable the LUN , scan LVM and mount the file system which is not ideal. Does anyone have any further insight into how I could get the OS to enable these LUN's on boot thus eliminating the need for my doubtless dirty script? Cheers Dan

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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] CentOS 5 i386 - The CentOS-5.3 i386 Live CD is released
by Radu-Cristian FOTESCU 27 May '09

27 May '09

> the problem in this case, is that the package should not > have been updated. It would / should be the same as whats > in the 5.3 tree. We prolly need to add that to the QA process. I know that this is CentOS' policy -- to ship obsolete packages on the install media, just to match 100% the upstream install media, so to match their possible bugs, but not newer installation bugs that won't match upstream bugs -- *but* this LiveCD is *not* matching anything upstream, and therefore it should have had updated packages! (Of course, that's my opinion, not yours.) The only way to install from a LiveCD is netinstall, so it doesn't matter what is on the CD -- except for the kernel and base system, but not the X applications. Otherwise, used as a rescue CD or just as a normal LiveCD, I don't see what would be the harm of using the official updates. It looks like CentOS has not defined yet a solid policy wrt the LiveCD. You could have taken some ideas from the ScientificLinux LiveCDs/LiveDVD/miniLiveCD. Unless you consider them a "rival", or unless you hate Urs Beyerle. For instance, they've added to the LiveCDs even packages not in their regular ScientificLinux distro, just to make them more useful as rescue tools. I don't say you should have copied them, but at least to take a look at what other clones are doing. > your email client is broken. It is not an e-mail client. It's Yahoo Mail Classic, the web interface. So it's more of a platform. Broken or not, *your* e-mail client should accept this kind of breakage. An e-mail client that only supports properly-formatted mail is like a car that can only runs on perfect roads. Regards, R-C __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/

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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] CentOS 5 i386 - The CentOS-5.3 i386 Live CD is released
by Radu-Cristian FOTESCU 27 May '09

27 May '09

> Yes. We had some issues with our mirror network which we > wanted to resolve before announcing the Live CD, so that > the CD would be available on all mirror carrying CD isos. Ouch, didn't know that there were mirroring problems. > > Also, how come it only includes FF 3.0.6? This is > terribly weird IMHO. > > It went through QA before the release announcement, which > also took some time. OK. However... this is still ridiculous, given the dates when CentOS has released FF updated packages: firefox-3.0.6 = 04-Feb-2009 firefox-3.0.7 = 01-Apr-2009 firefox-3.0.9 = 23-Apr-2009 firefox-3.0.10 = 28-Apr-2009 5.3 LiveCD = 19-May-2009 Just updating 1 (one) package and regenerate the CD... how much would it have taken to test the result? Note that the updated package was part of CentOS 5.3 since April 28 already. (Sigh.) All right, nothing would change now anyway. But it's still ridiculous to ship a FF issued in February 4! Regards, R-C __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/

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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] CentOS 5 i386 - The CentOS-5.3 i386 Live CD is released
by Radu-Cristian FOTESCU 27 May '09

27 May '09

> Like every thing else we do - its not released till > its announced. And till its announced, it can change > - be removed or modified or even pulled. Thanks. It makes sense. It's just... the regular 5.3 was *not* posted (as ISO images) one week before the announcement! And it was frustrating... http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/useless_chart_r… Best regards, R-C __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/

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[CentOS-announce] CentOS 5 i386 - The CentOS-5.3 i386 Live CD is released
by Radu-Cristian FOTESCU 27 May '09

27 May '09

Umm... is there any rational reason to only announce the CentOS-5.3 Live CD on May 27, when it was available since May 19, and Patrice has updated the Release Notes on the same May 19? The CD date is indeed 19-May-2009 02:50 and I've found it on May 21 on all the mirrors I've checked. I was persuaded that the only 5.3 LiveCD available was from ScientificLinux, and I've checked with CentOS just be reflex. To my surprise, 5.3 LiveCD was available, but not announced! Also, how come it only includes FF 3.0.6? This is terribly weird IMHO. Best regards, R-C __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.

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[OT] DR
by Scott McClanahan 26 May '09

26 May '09

I remember a thread many months ago where someone asked about a disaster recovery template or guide and several people on this list linked some really good content. I can't seem to find that thread now and neglected to make note of the links but I do recall that some of the guides came from a site that had many other "industry best practices" type guides. Any insight here or do you need more info? Thanks.

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