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glibc-debug is missing from 3.3
by Farkas Levente 23 Sep '04

23 Sep '04

hi, it seems that glibc-debug missing from 3.3 while it's in 3.1 so automatic yum update is not working (missing package). it's just a fault or it's missing "by desing"? yours. -- Levente "Si vis pacem para bellum!"

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Re: nVIDIA on Linux -- less is more
by Rick Graves 23 Sep '04

23 Sep '04

Christopher, I have a couple of other points. My recent email with the subject "nVIDIA on CentOS 3.3" was specifically in response to Kevin Wood's Fri, 17 Sep 2004 email with the subject "Does the nvidia graphic card problem still exist with CentOS-3.3?". The wording of my email came out wrong because I was responding to Kevin's email (which I copy below, along with my response on Sunday). As you can see from Kevin's email, he had problems with nVIDIA cards, and he was wondering whether CentOS 3.3 would resolve them. So I was writing to let him know the answer (No!). I looked up the prior discussion of nVIDIA cards in the mail digest. For the record, they are available here: http://www.caosity.org/pipermail/centos/ CentOS digest, Vol 1 #65 - 3 msgs Fri, 18 Jun 2004 CentOS digest, Vol 1 #66 - 7 msgs Sat, 19 Jun 2004 CentOS digest, Vol 1 #67 - 3 msgs Mon, 21 Jun 2004 Rick Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:02:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rick Graves" <gravesricharde(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: nVIDIA on CentOS 3.3 To: centos(a)caosity.org Kevin, > Will the same problems exist with CentOS-3.3 > that existed in CentOS-3.1 regarding the nvidia > graphics cards. I can try it later this week (assuming that CentOS-3.3 is fully ready to go by then). At the office, I have all the components of my "hardware combination from hell," and it would be easy to get them all onto the test bench. Rick > Message: 2 > From: kevin <kwood(a)free.fr> > Reply-To: kwood(a)free.fr > To: centos(a)caosity.org > Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:50:06 +0200 > Subject: [Centos] Does the nvidia graphic card > problem still exist with CentOS-3.3 > > Will the same problems exist with CentOS-3.3 > that existed in CentOS-3.1 regarding the nvidia > graphics cards. > > As I have quite a few, thought I would ask. > > Kevin Wood.

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Web & Mail
by Beth Curotto 22 Sep '04

22 Sep '04

I have just set up a box - HOSTNAME mail.abni.com It has Qmail setup. I also want this box to serve as the host for our website - abni.com Can someone point me in the direction of where to go next. I am unsure if HOSTNAME will be a problem as a web server. Currently I have loaded a html doc in - /var/www/html, but I had to load from cd directly on this machine. Is is neccessary to setup ftp to be able to upload html from remote system? Don't know if this is important at this point - but this system is NAT'd to an internal ip. Heck of a 1st Linux project, huh. That's for all the advice. Beth

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RE:[Centos] nVIDIA on CentOS 3.3
by kevin 22 Sep '04

22 Sep '04

Thank you for the answer to my question, it is much appreciated. Although there are solutions to the problem as other people point out. I don't see the point in using a graphics card which works with drivers that have to be rebuilt everytime the kernel is updated. I've been there and done it, it is unnecessary in 2004. Kevin Wood. Hey, This was exactly the situation under CentOS 3.1. Moral of the nVIDIA story: if the monitor/display card/motherboard combination works for you, great. If not, using a display card from a different manufacturer may be the best solution. IMHO. Rick

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Re: [Centos] nVIDIA on CentOS 3.3
by Rick Graves 22 Sep '04

22 Sep '04

Christopher, The wording of my email came out wrong. I did not intend to cast aspersions on CentOS. I wrote to the CentOS and/or cAos mailing lists some months ago on this topic, and I also put up an FAQ on the problem (which you can find in the FAQ's under Installation). In my mind, my message yesterday was in the context of my prior emails and the FAQ. Back then, I went through hours of trial and error tests, and I found exactly the same problem with exactly the same hardware when I was running Fedora 1 (and perhaps Debian as well -- on Debian, I am not sure, but I am 100% sure about Fedora). So I concluded then that this is not a CentOS or cAos problem, but at least a RedHat problem and maybe a Linux problem. > First of all, I'd be interested to see where your > conclusion that your monitor doesn't work with an > nVidia card in linux came from -- what > exactly did you experience/test to come to this > statement? I believe my prior email answers your question in detail.

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Re: [Centos] Re: kernel question
by C.M. Connelly 22 Sep '04

22 Sep '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 "BS" == Bart Schaefer <schaefer+centos(a)zanshin.com> BS> (1) Is the aforementioned kernel patch already present in BS> the CentOS-3.3 kernels? It seems like it's in the 3.1 series kernels vosill% ll /proc/sys/vm/pagecache - -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Sep 21 12:11 /proc/sys/vm/pagecache Values default to 1, 15, 100, but can be reset with the command you suggested. I'll let you know if I notice any changes. Claire *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Claire Connelly cmc(a)math.hmc.edu Systems Administrator (909) 621-8754 Department of Mathematics Harvey Mudd College *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 <http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/> iD8DBQFBUH0LB0pE8d7vd8wRAir2AJ9IXeK3oc9DLdqFCf4UBpBdCeEvdACeII2U Xay8fJskLdJxu+EPWzMBo7o= =QOY6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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nVIDIA on CentOS 3.3
by Rick Graves 22 Sep '04

22 Sep '04

Hey, I tried it. The short answer is that nVIDIA cards are OK for text, but may not work at all under X. I downloaded the 3.3 ISO's, and burned new CD's. I did an X desktop install on a test bench P3 600 MHz system with a 4.3 gig drive. I did the install with a known-to-work Voodoo Banshee card to get the system going. I used a Mag DX1495 monitor, which I know does not to work on Linux with nVIDIA cards (but which works just fine running Windows with nVIDIA cards). Everything installed OK with only a minor glitch toward the end (just when going into the reboot, after setting up the monitor and display card, there were some messages about cannot find some graphics files). After going into my regular user account and adjusting some preferences, I shut the system down, replaced the Voodoo Banshee card with an nVIDIA Riva TNT 2 card, and restarted the computer. During startup, kudzu detected the hardware change, and configured the machine for the new card following my confirmation. (Windows can do this automatically, why not Linux?) Sure enough, when X tried to load, the screen went blank. Not only did the screen go blank for the X console #7, but the screen was blank for the 6 other consoles as well. I knew this because I could change to my favorite with F2, then Ctl-Alt-del to reboot. The screen stayed blank until the computer began the new boot, when the screen came back. This was exactly the situation under CentOS 3.1. Moral of the nVIDIA story: if the monitor/display card/motherboard combination works for you, great. If not, using a display card from a different manufacturer may be the best solution. IMHO. Rick

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Re: kernel question
by Bart Schaefer 21 Sep '04

21 Sep '04

William Warren wrote: > An interesting bug in RHEL 3(which affects CentOS 3) has been > bantered around for a while. There are some kernel > patches(beyond my scope right now) or some echo statements tht > are used(this helped my situation). > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=89226 I don't have any direct feedback on Warren's [not excerpted] question about using other kernels, but I have some feedback on the echo statements that he mentions. I had been noticing that memory-intensive apps such as Mozilla were taking a very long time to swap back in after having been idle overnight -- more than a couple of minutes, often, when I would switch desktops for the first time each day to the one where I keep Moz running, before the window would refresh. Scanning through the bugzilla report, I saw the kernel patch that changes the vm.pagecache defaults. So I executed echo "1 5 10" > /proc/sys/vm/pagecache My applications are now MUCH more responsive; there's never a delay before the Mozilla window refreshes, and VMware works noticeably better. If you are running CentOS 3.1 or RHEL3, you might want to try this, even if you aren't seeing serious problems with swapping. This brings me to two questions: (1) Is the aforementioned kernel patch already present in the CentOS-3.3 kernels? (2) (Somwhat OT) Is there an equivalent pagecache tweak for RedHat 9? The /proc/sys/vm/pagecache "device" is not present in RH9.

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Centos-3.3 i386 CDs
by Petr "Qaxi" Klima 21 Sep '04

21 Sep '04

Hi Just wondering why there are two diferent version of file comps #ll iso/mnt-cd1/RedHat/RPMS/comps-3.0.0centos-0.20040916.i386.rpm -r--r--r-- 1 root root 6821992 Sep 16 19:11 iso/mnt-cd1/RedHat/RPMS/comps-3.0.0centos-0.20040916.i386.rpm #ll iso/mnt-cd3/RedHat/RPMS/comps-3.0.0centos-0.20040916.i386.rpm -r--r--r-- 2 root root 6809965 Sep 16 18:52 iso/mnt-cd3/RedHat/RPMS/comps-3.0.0centos-0.20040916.i386.rpm # Which is the right? Petr Klima

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CentOS-3.3
by Bill Wichser 21 Sep '04

21 Sep '04

Thank you for the long awaited x86_64 port! Looking through the RedHat pages concerning their EL releases, I find that the ES and WS versions claim to support only 2 CPUs while the AS version supports, well, more. With the CentOS releases following the ES releases, can I assume that this too is limited to two CPUs? Is this a kernel issue or something else? Should I be thinking of loading a non-CentOS release on a quad Opteron box? Thanks, Bill

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