Thanking everyone most sincerely for giving us C 7.0.
London, West (near LHR) Dojo ?
On 07 July 2014 @19:26 zulu, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
Always Learning wrote:
Thanking everyone most sincerely for giving us C 7.0.
I missed that notice over the weekend. 1++
Well, not only did I miss it over the weekend, but so did everyone else.
/i.e./ A copy of the starter message with this post's Subject is not stored at http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2014-July/thread.html either.
Someone's pulling our legs, methinks.
2014-07-07 21:42 GMT+02:00 Darr247 darr247@gmail.com:
On 07 July 2014 @19:26 zulu, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
Always Learning wrote:
Thanking everyone most sincerely for giving us C 7.0.
I missed that notice over the weekend. 1++
Well, not only did I miss it over the weekend, but so did everyone else.
/i.e./ A copy of the starter message with this post's Subject is not stored at http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2014-July/thread.html either.
Someone's pulling our legs, methinks.
It's on centos-announce and seven.centos.org http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-July/020393.html
- Jitse
On 07 July 2014 @19:44 zulu, Jitse Klomp wrote:
It's on centos-announce and seven.centos.org http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-July/020393.html
Thanks for the clarification. Torrents running; currently only 3 peers. :(
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 09:44:24PM +0200, Jitse Klomp wrote:
2014-07-07 21:42 GMT+02:00 Darr247 darr247@gmail.com:
On 07 July 2014 @19:26 zulu, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
Always Learning wrote:
Thanking everyone most sincerely for giving us C 7.0.
I missed that notice over the weekend. 1++
Well, not only did I miss it over the weekend, but so did everyone else.
/i.e./ A copy of the starter message with this post's Subject is not stored at http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2014-July/thread.html either.
Someone's pulling our legs, methinks.
It's on centos-announce and seven.centos.org http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-July/020393.html
and it's on the front page at centos.org.
On 07/07/2014 02:44 PM, Jitse Klomp wrote:
2014-07-07 21:42 GMT+02:00 Darr247 darr247@gmail.com:
On 07 July 2014 @19:26 zulu, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
Always Learning wrote:
Thanking everyone most sincerely for giving us C 7.0.
I missed that notice over the weekend. 1++
Well, not only did I miss it over the weekend, but so did everyone else.
/i.e./ A copy of the starter message with this post's Subject is not stored at http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2014-July/thread.html either.
Someone's pulling our legs, methinks.
It's on centos-announce and seven.centos.org http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-July/020393.html
Yes, CentOS 7 is released ...
Good job, everyone involved.
Thanks, Johnny Hughes
On 07/07/2014 03:50 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Yes, CentOS 7 is released ... Good job, everyone involved. Thanks, Johnny Hughes
Great to see. Now how long to wait for C7-i386 and perhaps more importantly C7-arm (for the v7s)?
:)
No really. I DO have some i386 platforms and I DO have this Cubieboard 2 that I am working with...
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 07/07/2014 03:50 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Yes, CentOS 7 is released ... Good job, everyone involved. Thanks, Johnny Hughes
Great to see. Now how long to wait for C7-i386 and perhaps more importantly C7-arm (for the v7s)?
:)
No really. I DO have some i386 platforms and I DO have this Cubieboard 2 that I am working with...
I'm waiting for 7.0.1, with all the upstream fixes that were missed.
mark "don't trust x.0 of anything"
--On Monday, July 07, 2014 04:38:34 PM -0400 m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
I'm waiting for 7.0.1, with all the upstream fixes that were missed.
mark "don't trust x.0 of anything"
Meh.
Normally, when putting things into production, I would agree with you. However, as I recently commented to a client, paraphrasing somewhat:
You're in a bind right now because in order to support your current business requirements you need to deploy more servers and the line of servers that you have running RHEL5 are no longer made. They have been replaced by a line that [for reasons I'm not getting into on the CentOS list but related to specific hardware configurations] will run RHEL6 but not RHEL5. So while you've got a bit of timeline lee-way, waiting a long time is not an option.
You can start deploying on RHEL6, but at this point your supported timeline is about half over. RHEL7 is out which will about double the supported lifetime of the new systems, but you're understandably skittish about dot-zero version numbers.
First mitigation: RedHat does a pretty decent job of testing things before they release them. There have been hiccoughs in the past, but (for the use case involved) they're few and far between. No promises, but there's a good chance that 7.0.nothing will be just fine.
Second mitigation: [The client] has a well defined lab/PoC environment, followed by a rigorous UAT environment before hitting production. And before that there is of course the hardware procurement schedule. By the time you're half way through your UAT even if RHEL isn't at 7.1, it'll have a decent amount of time for post-7.0 patches to have come out.
So unless there's required 3rd party software that isn't yet working on RHEL7 and for which you don't have a release timeline (or an acceptable release timeline), leapfrog over RHEL6 to RHEL7 and start building and testing your lab environment, and planning your UAT/production environments. By the time UAT is done, you're ready to go.
s,RHEL,CentOS,g;
Of course, as I finish writing this I notice that you said "7.0.1" and not "7.1". So we may not be too far off on our perspectives anyway.
Devin
On 07 July 2014 @19:50 zulu, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Good job, everyone involved.
Icon cursor. Except for the link in http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-July/020393.html to the Live GNOME torrent (it points to the Live KDE torrent, instead).
The correct link should be http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/isos/x86_64/CentOS-7.0-1406-x86_64-GnomeLi...
yay... Congratulations to CentOS development team and other user who use CentOS on their desktop, servers and etc...
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:14 AM, Jitse Klomp jitseklomp@gmail.com wrote:
2014-07-07 21:42 GMT+02:00 Darr247 darr247@gmail.com:
On 07 July 2014 @19:26 zulu, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
Always Learning wrote:
Thanking everyone most sincerely for giving us C 7.0.
I missed that notice over the weekend. 1++
Well, not only did I miss it over the weekend, but so did everyone else.
/i.e./ A copy of the starter message with this post's Subject is not stored at http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2014-July/thread.html either.
Someone's pulling our legs, methinks.
It's on centos-announce and seven.centos.org http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-July/020393.html
- Jitse _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Mon, 7 Jul 2014, Always Learning wrote:
Thanking everyone most sincerely for giving us C 7.0.
London, West (near LHR) Dojo ?
From what release of Fedora is CentOS7 derived.
As I understand, C5 == FC6, C6 == FC14, C7 == FC?
Thanks.
Max Pyziur pyz@brama.com
2014-07-07 22:19 GMT+02:00 Max Pyziur pyz@brama.com:
On Mon, 7 Jul 2014, Always Learning wrote:
Thanking everyone most sincerely for giving us C 7.0.
London, West (near LHR) Dojo ?
From what release of Fedora is CentOS7 derived.
As I understand, C5 == FC6, C6 == FC14, C7 == FC?
Fedora 19
- Jitse
It's derived from Redhat 7,.. CentOS is always derived from Redhat Enterprise Linux. Fedora is normally a preview of the next upcoming RHEL release.
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Max Pyziur pyz@brama.com wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jul 2014, Always Learning wrote:
Thanking everyone most sincerely for giving us C 7.0.
London, West (near LHR) Dojo ?
From what release of Fedora is CentOS7 derived.
As I understand, C5 == FC6, C6 == FC14, C7 == FC?
Thanks.
Max Pyziur pyz@brama.com _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On 07/07/2014 04:28 PM, Jeremy Hoel wrote:
It's derived from Redhat 7,.. CentOS is always derived from Redhat Enterprise Linux. Fedora is normally a preview of the next upcoming RHEL release.
Until recently, RHEL really lagged behind Fedora. With RHEL 7, they seemed to have taken on walking the talk and being as current as possible (F19 was the current release when RHEL7 development seemed to have started). It is great that this leap forward was made. Of course has the 'service' command been replaced with 'systemd'? That will be a big shock to Centos admins.
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Max Pyziur pyz@brama.com wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jul 2014, Always Learning wrote:
Thanking everyone most sincerely for giving us C 7.0.
London, West (near LHR) Dojo ?
From what release of Fedora is CentOS7 derived.
As I understand, C5 == FC6, C6 == FC14, C7 == FC?
Thanks.
Max Pyziur pyz@brama.com _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 07/07/2014 04:28 PM, Jeremy Hoel wrote:
It's derived from Redhat 7,.. CentOS is always derived from Redhat Enterprise Linux. Fedora is normally a preview of the next upcoming RHEL release.
Until recently, RHEL really lagged behind Fedora. With RHEL 7, they seemed to have taken on walking the talk and being as current as possible (F19 was the current release when RHEL7 development seemed to have started). It is great that this leap forward was made. Of course has the 'service' command been replaced with 'systemd'? That will be a big shock to Centos admins.
Fortunately, service invokes systemctl
mark
On 07/07/2014 04:51 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 07/07/2014 04:28 PM, Jeremy Hoel wrote:
It's derived from Redhat 7,.. CentOS is always derived from Redhat Enterprise Linux. Fedora is normally a preview of the next upcoming RHEL release.
Until recently, RHEL really lagged behind Fedora. With RHEL 7, they seemed to have taken on walking the talk and being as current as possible (F19 was the current release when RHEL7 development seemed to have started). It is great that this leap forward was made. Of course has the 'service' command been replaced with 'systemd'? That will be a big shock to Centos admins.
Fortunately, service invokes systemctl
AH, I meant systemctl.
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