[CentOS-devel] First round of RHEL programs announced

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:03 PM Laurențiu Păncescu <
lpancescu at centosproject.org> wrote:

> On 1/25/21 7:29 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
> > A fair question.  I've been in a few discussions related to this
> > internally and there are no plans to make changes for RHEL8 (IE: us
> > sending our debranded(ish) code to the centos git instance).  I could
> > imagine scenarios where that gets moved to gitlab.  But generally how we
> > push will remain the duration of RHEL8 - we just won't be building it
> > into CentOS.  Don't take this to mean it's a guarantee or that Red Hat
> > promised or whatever.  I'm just saying that at the moment we've
> > discussed it, no one is currently advocating for us to stop releasing
> > RHEL8 code in the way we do, and so we have no plans on changes there at
> > this time.
>
> Excuse me, perhaps I'm reading too much into your words, just for my own
> understanding: does this mean it's not clear if Red Hat will continue
> forever to release the sources for RHEL publicly, and perhaps only
> provide them to their customers, at some point in the future? I'm
> thinking more from perspective of rebuilds like Alma Linux or Oracle EL
> - they wouldn't have anything to rebuild by themselves anymore. With the
> zero-cost RHEL covering the use case of many small companies and
> hobbyists, I imagine this would be possible.
>

This is an area where written text falls flat and a conversation would be
better but here goes....

For RHEL9 and forward, I suspect we won't be doing a RHEL release, and then
releasing that code as we do today because.....

... the code should already be available via CentOS Stream.  To put it
another way, the current plan of record is - If you ever find a RHEL
binary, and cannot find the corresponding source code in the CentOS Stream
gitlab instance, that means we've messed something up along the way because
it was one of the explicit goals for CentOS Stream.  It might be released
in RHEL first with a bit of delay (we're talking hours or a day or two not
weeks), like with a 0-day CVE.  But generally, it should already be in
CentOS Stream well before it's in RHEL.

I hope that's clearer.  Worst case, the rebuilders you're talking about
will have to get to know our gitlab layouts, but all the code will be there.

For emphasis: There are no plans to stop making RHEL code available to the
public at this time.  It will just take a different route to get there than
it has under RHEL8/CentOS8 and before.

              -Mike
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