On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 3:49 PM Josh Boyer <jwboyer at redhat.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 3:02 PM Troy Dawson <tdawson at redhat.com> wrote: > > > > * Image build systems: kiwi / livecd > > * Tags and targets are now in CBS. We are now able to build images > > * Thanks to all those that did that work > > > > * We are not able to publish to the mirrors yet > > * https://pagure.io/centos-infra/issue/1039 > > > > * !! Help is needed creating rpm-ostree stuff in kiwi !! > > * https://github.com/OSInside/kiwi/issues/38 > > We already have tools that can generate rpm-ostree images. We have > entire projects and even products built around these tools. It seems > odd to call for help adding it to another tool when you could just use > the tools that already exist. > There's missing context: the SIG has given up on Image Builder for the time being due to osbuild-composer-koji not supporting CBS: https://pagure.io/centos-infra/issue/971 The only real interest in ImageBuilder is for RPM-OSTree images. And Image Builder doesn't support *anything* that the SIG wants to produce, except maybe cloud images. And I have no interest in pushing for ImageBuilder right now because it can't do anything I want either. > I mention this because the focus of the SIG as it was proposed to the > Board was to generate Alternative images. It wasn't a SIG focused on > enhancing kiwi. I would think the core mission can be accomplished > without stalling on a tool that doesn't work for some of these image > types. > In the actual meeting, I brought it up as if anyone is interested in rpm-ostree images, I would be happy to help with a contributor to support it in kiwi. So far, there has been no signficant interest in RPM-OSTree images from active members of the SIG. I do not hold a ton of interest in RPM-OSTree myself, and there's only so much stuff I am willing to do that doesn't benefit my needs. We're going to ignore RPM-OSTree for the time being and work on all the other things people in the SIG care about: disk images, live media, container images, etc. We're not "stalling on a tool that doesn't work", we're just ignoring the thing that nobody is expressing interest in right now. The summary of the meeting isn't exactly great at capturing that nuance, though. 😅 -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!