On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 5:35 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou at pingoured.fr> wrote: > > On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 06:42:25AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > I'd rather keep mailing lists for development myself. For that, I > > would suggest moving them to Fedora's instance and leveraging the > > multi-domain feature so that lists.centos.org goes to Fedora's > > instance. > > Random, stupid, thought: Neal, Fabian and Smooge, you are aware of the issues > Fedora has been having with its Mailman 3 instance, partly due to the fact that > we were amongst the first to migrate to mm3 which actually ended up giving > problems to upgrade down the line. > > So here goes crazy: what if there was a new MM3 server built for the CentOS > lists and then the remaining Fedora lists would look to be migrated to that same > instance? > It achieves the same outcome as what's described above: 1 instance, using > multi-domains, maintained by 1 team (CPE), for the CentOS and Fedora (and > pagure [1]) communities, but in reverse order and possibly giving an "easier" > upgrade path to the Fedora instance. > > Food for thoughts :) > I wonder if we can make the visual style change depending on the domain you're accessing it from. But otherwise it's basically six one way, half dozen the other. I suspect the plan would be to stand up a brand new instance and do a data migration anyway, since the existing one is kinda held together with silly putty. I went through a fair bit of pain to clean up the Mailman 3 stack over the years, and it wouldn't surprise me if things were more than a little weird in the current Fedora instance because of some of that early stuff. Currently, my understanding is that Fedora's instance is set up with the following domains: * lists.fedoraproject.org * lists.fedorahosted.org * lists.pagure.io We'd be adding "lists.centos.org" to that pile. We can start in reverse order if we want (centos -> pagure -> fedorahosted -> fedoraproject). But I do agree that we should see if we can have the appropriate branding show up depending on which domain you visit the Postorius/HyperKitty instances from. That's more of a question of working the HyperKitty and Postorius theming system more than anything else. :) We should absolutely migrate people's list subscriptions though. If we can pull it off, their list subscription settings too. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!