On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 9:19 AM Simon Matter <simon.matter at invoca.ch> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 7:17 AM Simon Matter <simon.matter at invoca.ch> > > wrote: > >> > >> > Am 09.01.24 um 00:52 schrieb John Cooper via CentOS-devel: > >> >> Additionally I don’t know how many of you can get or read the PC Pro > >> >> publication. However in one of their issues last year they were > >> >> providing options for what people can do when Windows 10 comes to the > >> >> end of its support lifecycle. > >> >> > >> >> One of the options was to switch to Linux they only mentioned Ubuntu > >> >> Linux and Linux Mint. Though that doesn’t preclude people switching > >> to > >> >> RHEL on their ex-Windows 10 computers when that point is reached. > >> Though > >> >> there’s the options of RHEL 8 and RHEL 9 it would be advantageous in > >> >> several respects including environmental ones, to take it into > >> account > >> >> for RHEL 10. It may even be a basis for a conversion campaign > >> involving > >> >> compatible systems that were once Windows 10, to promote conversion > >> from > >> >> Windows 10 to RHEL 10. > >> >> > >> >> Just think of the irony of going from Windows 10 to RHEL 10 as your > >> new > >> >> operating system on the computer! > >> >> > >> > > >> > That would be funny but - it seems that RH's agenda does not have a > >> > focus on workstation scenarios anymore. Main productivity applications > >> > are already marked as deprecated. So, they will not be included in a > >> > future major release: > >> > > >> > https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/9/html/9.3_release_notes/deprecated-functionality#deprecated-packages > >> > >> I'm working for a company in the retail business and we're running > >> exclusively on (RH)EL/clones for the lasts decades. Also running remote > >> desktops using our own solution based on NX libs. It was a pain to > >> realize > >> that RHEL is drifting away more and more from providing what is required > >> in our environment. It became clearer and clearer that our future road > >> will go away from RHEL despite maintaining quite a large inhouse repo > >> for > >> all kind of our own packages of software used, from development to > >> normal > >> office to server applications. > >> > > > > None of these packages are a surprise though: Qt 5 is being replaced > > with Qt 6[1], Motif is dead, Xorg is being replaced with Xwayland[2], > > LibreOffice transitioned to the community in Fedora in the summer[3], > > GTK2 is EOL upstream, gedit is replaced with gnome-text-editor[4][5], > > etc. > > > > If people care about using RHEL as a workstation as customers, they > > should be making that known through their contacts with Red Hat Sales > > and Red Hat Support. What I've gathered so far is that this is > > happening for some of them because they believe customers aren't > > really using them and so the effort is wasted. Some of them are for > > other reasons (Motif/GTK2 being dead, Wayland being the future, etc.), > > but dedicated RHEL workstation priority use-cases are counted through > > purchases of RHEL subscriptions for that purpose. If you're not doing > > that, then it's no surprise they think nobody is using them. > > What I'd be interested to know is what Red Hat is using internally these > days to run their business. > > In the past I really thought they may be using their on RHEL product line > for their corporate use. But today I start to believe they may probably use > the same industry standard crap everybody is using. > > Would be really interesting to be a mouse in Red Hat's own offices and > headquarters :) > They switched to Fedora for their preferred Linux distribution for workstations last year. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!