please notice that at this url http://www.centos.org/modules/smartfaq/faq.php?faqid=13 that there might actually be some misrepresentation of others based upon what i have read in this thread.... or the other... i deleted all my messages and had to cut and past the subject from the online archive... sorry. ummmmm it is Fedora Core and not Fedora Linux right? or am i missing something? im trying to understand..... does Red Hat have a license to say "Linux" and CentOS does not so that Red Hat can say Red Hat Enterprise Linux or Red Hat Linux X.x and CentOS is just a distribution that has linux in it or??? i know i am somewhat confused. anyone? - rh -- Robert Hanson Abba Communications http://www.abbacomm.net