On 09/13/2013 04:34 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > natxo asenjo wrote: > >> I do run centos (even in my laptop) but >> my main use is professional. And frankly, I do not know anyone in my >> personal environment with a linux computer (tablets/phones don't count). > > I can't parse this. > You are saying you are running centos on a laptop, > but don't know anyone running a "linux" computer. on my personal environment, no. On my professional life, all the time. > Do you mean that all the people you know are running Windows or MacOS? > Or do you mean you don't know anyone with a laptop? o god. > Incidentally, I'm not running CentOS on a laptop, > if that was your implication. > I run Fedora (and Windows) on all the laptops I own. > > Most people I know have laptops and smart phones; > only the youngest use their smart phones for email. > >> The main advantage of postfix >> above sendmail is that it is now more common. Sendmail has this >> reputation of being hard, so no one wants to start using it now. The >> pool of sendmail admins is dwindling fast. > > Possibly. > I changed because CentOS-6 changed to postfix as default, > and I would generally follow the default on any system I was using. > That does not alter the fact that the changeover was more difficult > or at least more time-consuming than it should have been, > due in my opinion to bad documentation. The fact you do not understand the documentation does not mean it is bad. The default postfix in centos does basically nothing. Because there is no standard setting for postfix (it is too versatile), e-mail administrators are expected to know what they are doing. If you do not want to spend the time learning that, just use your isp e-mail or one of the free and numerous cloud e-mail providers. > I don't agree with everything in > <http://stevelosh.com/blog/2013/09/teach-dont-tell/> > but I certainly think he is on the right side of the fence. > >> somehow I doubt that most families will start installing a centos server >> to handle their e-mail. Everybody is happy to hand it off to gmail >> nowadays, so they just configure that. > > Are they? > I would say that most people I know have misgivings about gmail. > >> Most people I know are happy to get a NAS device to keep their stuff >> centrally >> and for downloading stuff from newsgroups/bittorrent. They are not in >> the least interested in a mail server. But maybe the people you know are >> :-) > > Yes, we obviously live in different universes. > I don't know anyone who downloads newsgroups to a NAS device. you obviosly have never heard of nzb. Never mind. >>>> Also, the postfix mailing list is the best place to ask postfix >>>> questions >>> >>> I did ask the same two questions on that newsgroup/mailing-list >>> and got no response. >>> As you say, it seems to be the haunt of commercial or company email >>> admins. >> >> well, yes, those are the people using postfix after all :-) >> >> I went to check what you posted there, and I can see the problem with >> myhostname: >> >> myhostname = alfred.gayleard.eu >> >> but that host does not exist: >> >> $ host alfred.gayleard.eu >> Host alfred.gayleard.eu not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > --------------------------- > [tim at rose ~]$ dig gayleard.eu > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > gayleard.eu. 3600 IN A 79.51.59.112 that is the host *gayleard.eu*, not *alfread.gayleard.eu* which incidentally was your myhostname declaration. Do you see the difference? Your host alfred.gayleard.eu does NOT exist. And your mx record is mail.gayleard.eu, why don't you use that in your myhostname declaration? -- groet, natxo