On 01/24/2016 11:46 PM, Alice Wonder wrote: > On 01/24/2016 11:31 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote: >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: centos-bounces at centos.org >>> [mailto:centos-bounces at centos.org] On >>> Behalf Of John Hodrien >>> Sent: den 24 januari 2016 12:47 >>> To: CentOS mailing list >>> Cc: Mark LaPierre >>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent >>> >>> My opinion is that there's a silent majority who don't hate >>> Gnome3, and that >>> it's not half as terrible as people seem to make out. You can start >>> applications, move windows around, and manage files. What do >>> people really >>> want from a DE? Being able to just type winkey-texmaker and have >>> texmaker >>> start up is suddenly a bad thing? >> >> Spot on. >> >> I don't hate Gnome3 enough to get irritated, not when it's as easy >> as changing >> the desktop environment. >> This is what linux is about for me, if I don't like something - >> I'm pretty >> much free to search for other solutions and use those instead. >> >> I do understand Alice's rant though. >> It mirrored my sentiments with CentOS 7 just when it came out. 8-) > > I tried to like gnome3 but there were several things that I just > could not accept. > > Totem - which they insist on calling Movie Player now. I could not > figure out how to get to not be full screen. I use it for playing > audio clips I am working on, and don't want it full screen. In Gnome > 2 it was easy. > > Vertical Scroll Bar Sliders. They took away the scroll bars from my > applications. No configuration option to turn it on, after searching > and asking I found out the only way to turn them back on was with CSS. > > But after doing that, it only came back for some applications. > > On my desktop it isn't a big deal, I scroll with the scroll wheel. > But on my laptops (Thinpad T Series) I don't have a scroll wheel, I > like to grab the slider. > > Those are the reasons I switched to Mate. > > But even in Mate, applications like gedit pull in more Gnome 3 UI > crap I don't like. Like no file menu on the left hand side of the > window, instead horizontal bars all the way at the right hand hand > side of the window - yet a save box all the way on the left hand. > > And the Calculator app - Every damn time I grab the window to move > it, the mode selector gets triggered because instead of being in a > file menu like it use to be - it is now dead center in the top bar > of the window, where I am use to grabbing windows to drag them. > > Gnome3 UI is a disaster that needs to be fixed. > > It's also rather annoying that I can no longer use my favorite > spreadsheet, gnumeric, in CentOS because only old versions without > bug fixes build. It use to be that current versions of gnome > applications like gnumeric didn't require the most bleeding edge > libraries to build them, but now they do. I appreciate this "venting" thread. I am still on 6.7 with plans to move to CentOS 7 in a few months. I know CentOS 7 is systemd -- ok, maybe I can deal with that having had some exposure to it, though I'm VERY fond of good ole system V init scripts. And I actually had been looking forward to gnome3, but now I'm not too sure about that. Well I could go back to KDE in any case. But -- grub2 ?! Oh boy -- no joy from that in my previous experience! :( I'm hoping I can stick with grub 1 some way if I DO migrate to CentOS 7. > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- -------------------------------------------- MzK "Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." -- Carl Bard