[CentOS] C7, systemd, say what?!

Wed Jun 7 16:23:35 UTC 2017
Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org>

On 06/07/2017 09:10 AM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
> I just updated a system - as in minutes ago, and log back in after it
> reboots, and this is in dmesg:
> [   88.202272] systemd-readahead[484]:
> open(/var/tmp/dracut.fP4yj1/initramfs/usr/bin/loginctl) failed: Too many
> levels of symbolic links
> [   88.202515] systemd-readahead[484]:
> open(/var/tmp/dracut.fP4yj1/initramfs/usr/lib/systemd/system/dracut-emergency.service)
> failed: Too many levels of symbolic links
> Anyone know what this is - some weird bug, a garbage message?

Before this turns into another 200 email flame war about systemd .. this
list is NOT the place to discuss if systemd is good or bad, nor whether
it should be in a CentOS Linux distro or not.

CentOS rebuilds source code for RHEL as released by Red Hat.  If that
source code uses GNOME 3.14 instead of GNOME 3.18 .. or if it uses
mariadb instead of mysql .. or if it uses systemd or sysv init .. is not
relevant to how we build CentOS Linux or what CentOS Linux is.  If you
want to influence what is in upstream RHEL (so therefore what gets
released as source code, and therefore becomes part of CentOS Linux),
Red Hat has mechanisms in place where that happens for both Fedora and
RHEL.  This is not one of those mechanisms.

CentOS rebuilds the source code that is put out, nothing more.  No one
is making anyone use CentOS Linux, or like what it contains.  If you
don't like CentOS, don't use it.  If you don't like systemd but want to
use CentOS Linux, use CentOS-6, which does not have systemd.

If you want to create a CentOS-7 variant that does not use systemd, then
start a Special Interest Group and create modified packages to use
something else instead, much like the this group did with Debian:


In the case of CentOS-7 .. you don't need to create a whole new distro,
you can just petition the CentOS Project Board to create a Special
Interest Group to get access to CentOS Project controlled resources to
build packages (and get them rolled into our mirrors, etc.) to use
something other than systemd.

But just whining about not liking content in CentOS Linux in general, or
systemd in particular, is not productive.  Use CentOS if you want, if
you don't that is fine.  If you want something major changed .. this is
open source and we provide mechanisms to make such changes (Special
Interest Groups), so use them.

I am NOT saying that Mark (or anyone else) is whining at this point .. I
just picked the original mail in this thread to post this email
reminding how CentOS Linux works and to suggest how something
constructive might be done instead of another irrelevant (to CentOS
Linux) 'I like or I hate systemd' thread.

Johnny Hughes

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