I am a proponent of Xfce, especially for armv7 boards. I got introduced to Xfce with Fedora-arm 19 (or was it 18 or even 17?).
I did the Gnome image install, dropped to runlevel 3, installed vncserver, and do get the gnome desktop with my notebook taking most of the performance hit.
But having at least the option of installing the minimal image then doing a group install "Xfce Desktop" would be great.
BTW, I did 'yum list >y.lst' and 'grep -i xfce y.lst' and came up empty handed. Is Xfce even built for arm?
thanks
Robert, xfce is not provided by RedHat, so we don't have it in CentOS, but it is actually built by epel. So if you enable epel, you should be able to install xfce.
I've never tested it, so if you do, please report back :-).
Thanks. Pablo.
El 1/8/18 a las 10:23, Robert Moskowitz escribió:
I am a proponent of Xfce, especially for armv7 boards. I got introduced to Xfce with Fedora-arm 19 (or was it 18 or even 17?).
I did the Gnome image install, dropped to runlevel 3, installed vncserver, and do get the gnome desktop with my notebook taking most of the performance hit.
But having at least the option of installing the minimal image then doing a group install "Xfce Desktop" would be great.
BTW, I did 'yum list >y.lst' and 'grep -i xfce y.lst' and came up empty handed. Is Xfce even built for arm?
thanks
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
Pablo,
Thanks! I will do test install on the gnome image. If I goes without an error, I will do a build off minimal and try with that.
And interesting about Xfce and Redhat. They provide it for all Fedora builds. Or at least x64 and armv7!
On 08/01/2018 09:42 AM, Pablo Sebastián Greco wrote:
Robert, xfce is not provided by RedHat, so we don't have it in CentOS, but it is actually built by epel. So if you enable epel, you should be able to install xfce.
I've never tested it, so if you do, please report back :-).
Thanks. Pablo.
El 1/8/18 a las 10:23, Robert Moskowitz escribió:
I am a proponent of Xfce, especially for armv7 boards. I got introduced to Xfce with Fedora-arm 19 (or was it 18 or even 17?).
I did the Gnome image install, dropped to runlevel 3, installed vncserver, and do get the gnome desktop with my notebook taking most of the performance hit.
But having at least the option of installing the minimal image then doing a group install "Xfce Desktop" would be great.
BTW, I did 'yum list >y.lst' and 'grep -i xfce y.lst' and came up empty handed. Is Xfce even built for arm?
thanks
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
On 1 August 2018 at 09:46, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
Pablo,
Thanks! I will do test install on the gnome image. If I goes without an error, I will do a build off minimal and try with that.
And interesting about Xfce and Redhat. They provide it for all Fedora builds. Or at least x64 and armv7!
You are misinterpreting what Red Hat provides in Fedora. Red Hat sponsors Fedora which has community members build, develop and produce packages for an OS. Fedora is not a product of Red Hat and has many packages which are not in RHEL for many reasons. The packages in Fedora for XFCE are community driven versus ones that have a Red Hat developer paid full time to work on.
Red Hat does pull in packages from Fedora to make various versions of RHEL, but they are ones that they feel are what paying customers want and are willing to pay for long term support for.
On 08/01/2018 09:42 AM, Pablo Sebastián Greco wrote:
Robert, xfce is not provided by RedHat, so we don't have it in CentOS, but it is actually built by epel. So if you enable epel, you should be able to install xfce.
I've never tested it, so if you do, please report back :-).
Thanks. Pablo.
El 1/8/18 a las 10:23, Robert Moskowitz escribió:
I am a proponent of Xfce, especially for armv7 boards. I got introduced to Xfce with Fedora-arm 19 (or was it 18 or even 17?).
I did the Gnome image install, dropped to runlevel 3, installed vncserver, and do get the gnome desktop with my notebook taking most of the performance hit.
But having at least the option of installing the minimal image then doing a group install "Xfce Desktop" would be great.
BTW, I did 'yum list >y.lst' and 'grep -i xfce y.lst' and came up empty handed. Is Xfce even built for arm?
thanks
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
Stephen,
thank you for clarifying this.
meanwhile...
I have enabled the epel repo, and there is no "Xfce Desktop" group. I do see xfce4 rpms now, but what do I do to install the Xfce desktop?
thanks
On 08/01/2018 09:54 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On 1 August 2018 at 09:46, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
Pablo,
Thanks! I will do test install on the gnome image. If I goes without an error, I will do a build off minimal and try with that.
And interesting about Xfce and Redhat. They provide it for all Fedora builds. Or at least x64 and armv7!
You are misinterpreting what Red Hat provides in Fedora. Red Hat sponsors Fedora which has community members build, develop and produce packages for an OS. Fedora is not a product of Red Hat and has many packages which are not in RHEL for many reasons. The packages in Fedora for XFCE are community driven versus ones that have a Red Hat developer paid full time to work on.
Red Hat does pull in packages from Fedora to make various versions of RHEL, but they are ones that they feel are what paying customers want and are willing to pay for long term support for.
On 08/01/2018 09:42 AM, Pablo Sebastián Greco wrote:
Robert, xfce is not provided by RedHat, so we don't have it in CentOS, but it is actually built by epel. So if you enable epel, you should be able to install xfce.
I've never tested it, so if you do, please report back :-).
Thanks. Pablo.
El 1/8/18 a las 10:23, Robert Moskowitz escribió:
I am a proponent of Xfce, especially for armv7 boards. I got introduced to Xfce with Fedora-arm 19 (or was it 18 or even 17?).
I did the Gnome image install, dropped to runlevel 3, installed vncserver, and do get the gnome desktop with my notebook taking most of the performance hit.
But having at least the option of installing the minimal image then doing a group install "Xfce Desktop" would be great.
BTW, I did 'yum list >y.lst' and 'grep -i xfce y.lst' and came up empty handed. Is Xfce even built for arm?
thanks
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
On 01/08/18 16:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Stephen,
thank you for clarifying this.
meanwhile...
I have enabled the epel repo, and there is no "Xfce Desktop" group. I do see xfce4 rpms now, but what do I do to install the Xfce desktop?
thanks
There is no "Xfce Desktop" group, as it's unknown in the metadata. EPEL (official one) has a comps.xml that defines such groups and so which packages are mandatory/optional for a group ID.
As on our side, we just rebuild through build queues the EPEL src.rpm pkgs, and that after each successful build there is only a createrepo task that is ran, we don't point to a comps.xml that can be used for that.
We can probably "hack" the .py scripts from plague on our side for that, just for epel rebuilds, but maybe not worth doing . .so you can probably inspect the epel comps.xml, and see which pkgs have to be installed ?
Fabian,
Sigh. I am a pretty basic guy. What you are asking here is beyond me.
See the end here, where I did some group info on my F28 system.
I really need a cookbook of what groups to install on minimal and then some script to at least get Xfce base in.
Like I said, if you want a desktop on an armv7 SOC, something nicer to your resources is valuable. Xfce was there first in Fedora. I have looked at some of the others since them, and have stayed with Xfce.
On 08/01/2018 10:44 AM, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
On 01/08/18 16:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Stephen,
thank you for clarifying this.
meanwhile...
I have enabled the epel repo, and there is no "Xfce Desktop" group. I do see xfce4 rpms now, but what do I do to install the Xfce desktop?
thanks
There is no "Xfce Desktop" group, as it's unknown in the metadata. EPEL (official one) has a comps.xml that defines such groups and so which packages are mandatory/optional for a group ID.
As on our side, we just rebuild through build queues the EPEL src.rpm pkgs, and that after each successful build there is only a createrepo task that is ran, we don't point to a comps.xml that can be used for that.
We can probably "hack" the .py scripts from plague on our side for that, just for epel rebuilds, but maybe not worth doing . .so you can probably inspect the epel comps.xml, and see which pkgs have to be installed ?
Environment Group: Xfce Desktop Environment-Id: xfce-desktop-environment Description: A lightweight desktop environment that works well on low end machines. Common NetworkManager Submodules Core Dial-up Networking Support Fonts Guest Desktop Agents Hardware Support Input Methods Multimedia Printing Support Standard Xfce base-x Optional Groups: 3D Printing Applications for the Xfce Desktop Cloud Management Tools Extra plugins for the Xfce panel Multimedia support for Xfce Xfce Office
Group: Xfce Group-Id: xfce-desktop Description: A lightweight desktop environment that works well on low end machines. Mandatory Packages: NetworkManager-fortisslvpn-gnome-1.2.8-2.fc28.x86_64 @System NetworkManager-iodine-gnome-1.2.0-6.fc28.x86_64 @System NetworkManager-l2tp-gnome-1.2.10-1.fc28.x86_64 @System NetworkManager-libreswan-gnome-1.2.4-6.fc28.x86_64 @System NetworkManager-openconnect-gnome-1.2.4-9.fc28.x86_64 @System NetworkManager-openvpn-gnome-1:1.8.4-1.fc28.x86_64 @System NetworkManager-pptp-gnome-1:1.2.6-1.fc28.x86_64 @System NetworkManager-ssh-gnome-1.2.7-3.fc28.x86_64 @System NetworkManager-sstp-gnome-1:1.2.0-6.fc28.x86_64 @System NetworkManager-strongswan-gnome-1.4.3-1.fc28.x86_64 @System NetworkManager-vpnc-gnome-1:1.2.6-1.fc28.x86_64 @System Thunar-1.6.15-1.fc28.x86_64 @System abrt-desktop-2.10.10-1.fc28.x86_64 @System adwaita-gtk2-theme-3.28-1.fc28.x86_64 @System adwaita-icon-theme-3.28.0-1.fc28.noarch @System albatross-gtk2-theme-1.7.4-4.fc28.noarch @System albatross-gtk3-theme-1.7.4-4.fc28.noarch @System albatross-xfwm4-theme-1.7.4-4.fc28.noarch @System alsa-utils-1.1.6-1.fc28.x86_64 @System arc-theme-20170302-9.fc28.noarch @System blueberry-1.2.2-1.fc28.noarch @System bluebird-gtk2-theme-1.2-7.fc28.noarch @System bluebird-gtk3-theme-1.2-7.fc28.noarch @System bluebird-xfwm4-theme-1.2-7.fc28.noarch @System desktop-backgrounds-compat-28.0.0-1.fc28.noarch @System dnfdragora-updater-1.0.1-10.git20180108.b0e8a66.fc28.noarch @System fedora-icon-theme-1.0.0-23.fc28.noarch @System firewall-config-0.5.3-2.fc28.noarch @System fros-recordmydesktop-1.1-15.fc28.noarch @System greybird-gtk2-theme-3.22.8-1.fc28.noarch @System greybird-gtk3-theme-3.22.8-1.fc28.noarch @System greybird-xfce4-notifyd-theme-3.22.8-1.fc28.noarch @System greybird-xfwm4-theme-3.22.8-1.fc28.noarch @System gtk-xfce-engine-3.2.0-7.fc28.x86_64 @System gvfs-1.36.2-2.fc28.x86_64 @System gvfs-archive-1.36.2-2.fc28.x86_64 @System initial-setup-gui-0.3.58-1.fc28.x86_64 @System lightdm-gtk-2.0.5-1.fc28.x86_64 @System network-manager-applet-1.8.10-2.fc28.2.x86_64 @System nm-connection-editor-1.8.10-2.fc28.2.x86_64 @System openssh-askpass-7.7p1-5.fc28.x86_64 @System rodent-icon-theme thunar-archive-plugin-0.3.1-11.fc28.x86_64 @System thunar-media-tags-plugin-0.2.1-11.fc28.x86_64 @System thunar-volman-0.8.1-8.fc28.x86_64 @System tumbler-0.2.1-1.fc28.x86_64 @System vim-enhanced-2:8.1.197-1.fc28.x86_64 @System xdg-user-dirs-gtk-0.10-13.fc28.x86_64 @System xfce4-about-4.12.1-8.fc27.x86_64 @System xfce4-appfinder-4.12.0-9.fc28.x86_64 @System xfce4-datetime-plugin-0.7.0-6.fc28.x86_64 @System xfce4-panel-4.12.2-2.fc28.x86_64 @System xfce4-places-plugin-1.7.0-9.fc28.x86_64 @System xfce4-power-manager-1.6.1-2.fc28.x86_64 @System xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin-0.4.1-1.fc28.x86_64 @System xfce4-screenshooter-plugin-1.9.1-1.fc28.x86_64 @System xfce4-session-4.12.1-13.fc28.x86_64 @System xfce4-session-engines-4.12.1-13.fc28.x86_64 @System xfce4-settings-4.12.4-1.fc28.x86_64 @System xfce4-taskmanager-1.2.1-1.fc28.x86_64 @System xfce4-terminal-0.8.7.4-2.fc28.x86_64 @System xfconf-4.12.1-6.fc28.x86_64 @System xfdesktop-4.12.4-4.fc28.x86_64 @System xfwm4-4.12.4-4.fc28.x86_64 @System xfwm4-theme-nodoka-0.2-12.fc28.noarch @System xfwm4-themes-4.10.0-10.fc28.noarch @System xscreensaver-base-1:5.39-6.fc28.x86_64 @System
On 08/01/2018 10:44 AM, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
On 01/08/18 16:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Stephen,
thank you for clarifying this.
meanwhile...
I have enabled the epel repo, and there is no "Xfce Desktop" group. I do see xfce4 rpms now, but what do I do to install the Xfce desktop?
thanks
There is no "Xfce Desktop" group, as it's unknown in the metadata. EPEL (official one) has a comps.xml that defines such groups and so which packages are mandatory/optional for a group ID.
As on our side, we just rebuild through build queues the EPEL src.rpm pkgs, and that after each successful build there is only a createrepo task that is ran, we don't point to a comps.xml that can be used for that.
We can probably "hack" the .py scripts from plague on our side for that, just for epel rebuilds, but maybe not worth doing . .so you can probably inspect the epel comps.xml, and see which pkgs have to be installed ?
From the Centos list I was pointed to:
http://pastebin.centos.org/1251906/raw/
If you cannot find anything better/more for me, this would be a starting point.
thanks for all help.
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Fabian Arrotin -
Pablo Sebastián Greco -
Robert Moskowitz -
Stephen John Smoogen