On 03/03/17 16:49, Hamid Safe wrote:
Hello all, I was wondering if there is a method to provide a "basic" graphical env on Centos7 arm. This is in line with the recent upstream Fedora publishing all types with their ver:25. also the fact that Raspbian now released a stable graphical env that works out of the box with all the goodies. My tries no matter what type of graphical env chosen have failed with dependencies not met. I have already set up the epel for arm. I know that you have gone a long way preparing the Centos7 minimal for the arm and it is already awesome, however having a graphical skin particularly in arm boards sometimes is a must-have requirement. Thanks in advance
Hi,
I don't think someone/anyone really spent time investigating the whole chain for a desktop environment on CentOS 7 armhfp. I've myself never tried even to just see if that would work. The initial goal was to have "minimal" working, as most users are probably targeting such system. If now some people would like to spend time investigating what would be needed, what's still to be built, etc, that can "become a thing" :-)
Given that RedSleeve (EL7 armv5tel) has a fully working desktop environment, I suspect a cross-check against the packages and patches there would be a good start: https://github.com/redsleeve-linux/el7
On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Fabian Arrotin arrfab@centos.org wrote:
On 03/03/17 16:49, Hamid Safe wrote:
Hello all, I was wondering if there is a method to provide a "basic" graphical env on Centos7 arm. This is in line with the recent upstream Fedora publishing all types with their ver:25. also the fact that Raspbian now released a stable graphical env that works out of the box with all the goodies. My tries no matter what type of graphical env chosen have failed with dependencies not met. I have already set up the epel for arm. I know that you have gone a long way preparing the Centos7 minimal for the arm and it is already awesome, however having a graphical skin particularly in arm boards sometimes is a must-have requirement. Thanks in advance
Hi,
I don't think someone/anyone really spent time investigating the whole chain for a desktop environment on CentOS 7 armhfp. I've myself never tried even to just see if that would work. The initial goal was to have "minimal" working, as most users are probably targeting such system. If now some people would like to spend time investigating what would be needed, what's still to be built, etc, that can "become a thing" :-)
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On 04/03/17 11:20, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
On 03/03/17 16:49, Hamid Safe wrote:
Hello all, I was wondering if there is a method to provide a "basic" graphical env on Centos7 arm. This is in line with the recent upstream Fedora publishing all types with their ver:25. also the fact that Raspbian now released a stable graphical env that works out of the box with all the goodies. My tries no matter what type of graphical env chosen have failed with dependencies not met. I have already set up the epel for arm. I know that you have gone a long way preparing the Centos7 minimal for the arm and it is already awesome, however having a graphical skin particularly in arm boards sometimes is a must-have requirement. Thanks in advance
Hi,
I don't think someone/anyone really spent time investigating the whole chain for a desktop environment on CentOS 7 armhfp. I've myself never tried even to just see if that would work. The initial goal was to have "minimal" working, as most users are probably targeting such system. If now some people would like to spend time investigating what would be needed, what's still to be built, etc, that can "become a thing" :-)
Just had 5 minutes to connect a rpi2 to my tft screen and tested the following :
yum group install 'Server with GUI' --skip-broken yum install xorg-x11-drv-fbdev.armv7hl xorg-x11-drv-evdev.armv7hl xterm
After that , as I was able to get a X environment working with xinit /bin/xterm
So I guess it's now a matter of finding a correct GDM/login manager and then something light that can be used ...
On 03/06/2017 08:41 AM, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
On 04/03/17 11:20, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
On 03/03/17 16:49, Hamid Safe wrote:
Hello all, I was wondering if there is a method to provide a "basic" graphical env on Centos7 arm. This is in line with the recent upstream Fedora publishing all types with their ver:25. also the fact that Raspbian now released a stable graphical env that works out of the box with all the goodies. My tries no matter what type of graphical env chosen have failed with dependencies not met. I have already set up the epel for arm. I know that you have gone a long way preparing the Centos7 minimal for the arm and it is already awesome, however having a graphical skin particularly in arm boards sometimes is a must-have requirement. Thanks in advance
Hi,
I don't think someone/anyone really spent time investigating the whole chain for a desktop environment on CentOS 7 armhfp. I've myself never tried even to just see if that would work. The initial goal was to have "minimal" working, as most users are probably targeting such system. If now some people would like to spend time investigating what would be needed, what's still to be built, etc, that can "become a thing" :-)
Just had 5 minutes to connect a rpi2 to my tft screen and tested the following :
yum group install 'Server with GUI' --skip-broken yum install xorg-x11-drv-fbdev.armv7hl xorg-x11-drv-evdev.armv7hl xterm
After that , as I was able to get a X environment working with xinit /bin/xterm
So I guess it's now a matter of finding a correct GDM/login manager and then something light that can be used ...
I vote for Xfce. Though LXDE seems to have a following. You can try them all from the latest rawhide builds over at:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?state=all&view=tree&method...
KDE works fine for me on RedSleeve, so it definitely should be possible to get it working on CentOS as well.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
On 03/06/2017 08:41 AM, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
On 04/03/17 11:20, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
On 03/03/17 16:49, Hamid Safe wrote:
Hello all, I was wondering if there is a method to provide a "basic" graphical env on Centos7 arm. This is in line with the recent upstream Fedora publishing all types with their ver:25. also the fact that Raspbian now released a stable graphical env that works out of the box with all the goodies. My tries no matter what type of graphical env chosen have failed with dependencies not met. I have already set up the epel for arm. I know that you have gone a long way preparing the Centos7 minimal for the arm and it is already awesome, however having a graphical skin particularly in arm boards sometimes is a must-have requirement. Thanks in advance
Hi,
I don't think someone/anyone really spent time investigating the whole chain for a desktop environment on CentOS 7 armhfp. I've myself never tried even to just see if that would work. The initial goal was to have "minimal" working, as most users are probably targeting such system. If now some people would like to spend time investigating what would be needed, what's still to be built, etc, that can "become a thing" :-)
Just had 5 minutes to connect a rpi2 to my tft screen and tested the
following :
yum group install 'Server with GUI' --skip-broken yum install xorg-x11-drv-fbdev.armv7hl xorg-x11-drv-evdev.armv7hl xterm
After that , as I was able to get a X environment working with xinit /bin/xterm
So I guess it's now a matter of finding a correct GDM/login manager and then something light that can be used ...
I vote for Xfce. Though LXDE seems to have a following. You can try them all from the latest rawhide builds over at:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?state=all&view=tre e&method=appliance&order=-id
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It is all about resources consumed by the GDM. Gnome is a real hog. Also 2D vs 3D. I would think that for a server, 2D is enough.
Battery life may not be an issue for C7 users like it is for my F24 notebook; I gained considerable battery life switching to XFce from Gnome.
IMNSHO, it is a priorities thing. If all rpms compile equally as well, the ones that use the least memory and cpu over others.
My 1cent worth.
On 03/06/2017 09:24 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
KDE works fine for me on RedSleeve, so it definitely should be possible to get it working on CentOS as well.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com mailto:rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
On 03/06/2017 08:41 AM, Fabian Arrotin wrote: On 04/03/17 11:20, Fabian Arrotin wrote: On 03/03/17 16:49, Hamid Safe wrote: Hello all, I was wondering if there is a method to provide a "basic" graphical env on Centos7 arm. This is in line with the recent upstream Fedora publishing all types with their ver:25. also the fact that Raspbian now released a stable graphical env that works out of the box with all the goodies. My tries no matter what type of graphical env chosen have failed with dependencies not met. I have already set up the epel for arm. I know that you have gone a long way preparing the Centos7 minimal for the arm and it is already awesome, however having a graphical skin particularly in arm boards sometimes is a must-have requirement. Thanks in advance Hi, I don't think someone/anyone really spent time investigating the whole chain for a desktop environment on CentOS 7 armhfp. I've myself never tried even to just see if that would work. The initial goal was to have "minimal" working, as most users are probably targeting such system. If now some people would like to spend time investigating what would be needed, what's still to be built, etc, that can "become a thing" :-) Just had 5 minutes to connect a rpi2 to my tft screen and tested the following : yum group install 'Server with GUI' --skip-broken yum install xorg-x11-drv-fbdev.armv7hl xorg-x11-drv-evdev.armv7hl xterm After that , as I was able to get a X environment working with xinit /bin/xterm So I guess it's now a matter of finding a correct GDM/login manager and then something light that can be used ... I vote for Xfce. Though LXDE seems to have a following. You can try them all from the latest rawhide builds over at: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?state=all&view=tree&method=appliance&order=-id <https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?state=all&view=tree&method=appliance&order=-id> _______________________________________________ Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org <mailto:Arm-dev@centos.org> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev <https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev>
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Last time I checked, KDE memory footprint was quite similar to XFCE (and in any case much smaller than, say, Firefox). I don't use Gnome so cannot comment on that, but I don't imagine GDM itself is that heavy just to display the login screen.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
It is all about resources consumed by the GDM. Gnome is a real hog. Also 2D vs 3D. I would think that for a server, 2D is enough.
Battery life may not be an issue for C7 users like it is for my F24 notebook; I gained considerable battery life switching to XFce from Gnome.
IMNSHO, it is a priorities thing. If all rpms compile equally as well, the ones that use the least memory and cpu over others.
My 1cent worth.
On 03/06/2017 09:24 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
KDE works fine for me on RedSleeve, so it definitely should be possible to get it working on CentOS as well.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
On 03/06/2017 08:41 AM, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
On 04/03/17 11:20, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
On 03/03/17 16:49, Hamid Safe wrote:
Hello all, I was wondering if there is a method to provide a "basic" graphical env on Centos7 arm. This is in line with the recent upstream Fedora publishing all types with their ver:25. also the fact that Raspbian now released a stable graphical env that works out of the box with all the goodies. My tries no matter what type of graphical env chosen have failed with dependencies not met. I have already set up the epel for arm. I know that you have gone a long way preparing the Centos7 minimal for the arm and it is already awesome, however having a graphical skin particularly in arm boards sometimes is a must-have requirement. Thanks in advance
Hi,
I don't think someone/anyone really spent time investigating the whole chain for a desktop environment on CentOS 7 armhfp. I've myself never tried even to just see if that would work. The initial goal was to have "minimal" working, as most users are probably targeting such system. If now some people would like to spend time investigating what would be needed, what's still to be built, etc, that can "become a thing" :-)
Just had 5 minutes to connect a rpi2 to my tft screen and tested the
following :
yum group install 'Server with GUI' --skip-broken yum install xorg-x11-drv-fbdev.armv7hl xorg-x11-drv-evdev.armv7hl xterm
After that , as I was able to get a X environment working with xinit /bin/xterm
So I guess it's now a matter of finding a correct GDM/login manager and then something light that can be used ...
I vote for Xfce. Though LXDE seems to have a following. You can try them all from the latest rawhide builds over at:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?state=all&view=tre e&method=appliance&order=-id
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I suspect the login screen is very light. There is that little icon that lets you select which GDM gets loaded, so the 'load' comes in loading a given GDM. I had problems with F24-X86_64 loading Cinnamon even when you selected Xfce. As it is I have both installed, but the login defaults now to loading Xfce. Supposedly the bug has been fixed.
Quite some years back on Fedora-arm, probably F22, there was a GDM discussion and Xfce and LDXE were the 'winners' in memory and cpu. I tried LDXE, but liked the feel of Xfce and switched to it. With Fedora images, it is really easy to try a GDM, just build a mSD card for each GDM and boot and see how it goes.
Still use k3b...
On 03/06/2017 10:16 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Last time I checked, KDE memory footprint was quite similar to XFCE (and in any case much smaller than, say, Firefox). I don't use Gnome so cannot comment on that, but I don't imagine GDM itself is that heavy just to display the login screen.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com mailto:rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
It is all about resources consumed by the GDM. Gnome is a real hog. Also 2D vs 3D. I would think that for a server, 2D is enough. Battery life may not be an issue for C7 users like it is for my F24 notebook; I gained considerable battery life switching to XFce from Gnome. IMNSHO, it is a priorities thing. If all rpms compile equally as well, the ones that use the least memory and cpu over others. My 1cent worth. On 03/06/2017 09:24 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:KDE works fine for me on RedSleeve, so it definitely should be possible to get it working on CentOS as well. On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com <mailto:rgm@htt-consult.com>> wrote: On 03/06/2017 08:41 AM, Fabian Arrotin wrote: On 04/03/17 11:20, Fabian Arrotin wrote: On 03/03/17 16:49, Hamid Safe wrote: Hello all, I was wondering if there is a method to provide a "basic" graphical env on Centos7 arm. This is in line with the recent upstream Fedora publishing all types with their ver:25. also the fact that Raspbian now released a stable graphical env that works out of the box with all the goodies. My tries no matter what type of graphical env chosen have failed with dependencies not met. I have already set up the epel for arm. I know that you have gone a long way preparing the Centos7 minimal for the arm and it is already awesome, however having a graphical skin particularly in arm boards sometimes is a must-have requirement. Thanks in advance Hi, I don't think someone/anyone really spent time investigating the whole chain for a desktop environment on CentOS 7 armhfp. I've myself never tried even to just see if that would work. The initial goal was to have "minimal" working, as most users are probably targeting such system. If now some people would like to spend time investigating what would be needed, what's still to be built, etc, that can "become a thing" :-) Just had 5 minutes to connect a rpi2 to my tft screen and tested the following : yum group install 'Server with GUI' --skip-broken yum install xorg-x11-drv-fbdev.armv7hl xorg-x11-drv-evdev.armv7hl xterm After that , as I was able to get a X environment working with xinit /bin/xterm So I guess it's now a matter of finding a correct GDM/login manager and then something light that can be used ... I vote for Xfce. Though LXDE seems to have a following. You can try them all from the latest rawhide builds over at: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?state=all&view=tree&method=appliance&order=-id <https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?state=all&view=tree&method=appliance&order=-id> _______________________________________________ Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org <mailto:Arm-dev@centos.org> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev <https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev> _______________________________________________ Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org <mailto:Arm-dev@centos.org> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev <https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev>_______________________________________________ Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org <mailto:Arm-dev@centos.org> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev <https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev>
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