Greetings and long time not been around.
I am looking at getting a current Centos-arm DNS server going and managed with Webmin instead of doing it myself (currently running my DNS on Cubieboard2 and Centos7 all zones hand-crafted).
So I was looking at getting Centos8-arm and noticed that EoL is 6/30/2024! What?
The main Centos list talks about Stream 9, but nothing about Linux 9.
What is the status of 9? will we see something, say in the next month when I am likely to do this?
thanks
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 09:35, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
Greetings and long time not been around.
I am looking at getting a current Centos-arm DNS server going and managed with Webmin instead of doing it myself (currently running my DNS on Cubieboard2 and Centos7 all zones hand-crafted).
So I was looking at getting Centos8-arm and noticed that EoL is 6/30/2024! What?
I have a lot of questions in order to try and answer anything here. When you are speaking about arm, do you mean arm32 or aarch64? Also where did you see the EoL notice? CentOS Stream 8 does end in June 30, 2024 but I don't know where anything mentions CentOS Linux arm for that date.
The main Centos list talks about Stream 9, but nothing about Linux 9.
There will be no CentOS Linux 9, there will only be CentOS Stream 9.
What is the status of 9? will we see something, say in the next month when I am likely to do this?
thanks
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
On 2/21/22 09:55, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 09:35, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
Greetings and long time not been around. I am looking at getting a current Centos-arm DNS server going and managed with Webmin instead of doing it myself (currently running my DNS on Cubieboard2 and Centos7 all zones hand-crafted). So I was looking at getting Centos8-arm and noticed that EoL is 6/30/2024! What?I have a lot of questions in order to try and answer anything here. When you are speaking about arm, do you mean arm32 or aarch64? Also where did you see the EoL notice? CentOS Stream 8 does end in June 30, 2024 but I don't know where anything mentions CentOS Linux arm for that date.
I should have said, arm32.
and EOL from:
https://www.centos.org/download/
The main Centos list talks about Stream 9, but nothing about Linux 9.There will be no CentOS Linux 9, there will only be CentOS Stream 9.
Interesting. Going to have to learn about Stream and what is happening for it for arm32.
What is the status of 9? will we see something, say in the next month when I am likely to do this? thanks _______________________________________________ Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev-- Stephen J Smoogen. Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. -- Ian MacClaren
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 12:13, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
On 2/21/22 09:55, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 09:35, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
Greetings and long time not been around.
I am looking at getting a current Centos-arm DNS server going and managed with Webmin instead of doing it myself (currently running my DNS on Cubieboard2 and Centos7 all zones hand-crafted).
So I was looking at getting Centos8-arm and noticed that EoL is 6/30/2024! What?
I have a lot of questions in order to try and answer anything here. When you are speaking about arm, do you mean arm32 or aarch64? Also where did you see the EoL notice? CentOS Stream 8 does end in June 30, 2024 but I don't know where anything mentions CentOS Linux arm for that date.
I should have said, arm32.
So arm32 is a special case being run by a volunteer. The download page you pointed to only covers EL7. EL8 support for ARM32 may be gone and would be hard to continue due to the fact that it is done on EOL hardware. [ It is either done on some donated older hardware or done as virtual machines on Ampere systems which allowed for that. Newer models do not have any ARM32 support in them]. Due to the lack of hardware support and the fact that a lot of software is having a harder time compiling due to the standard 4GB limit, I am expecting that Debian and Yocto will be the only large distributions for ARM32 with 4 years or so.
RedSleeve has had an arm32 el8 build for some time: https://ftp.redsleeve.org/pub/el8/ Since June 2019.
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 9:01 PM Stephen John Smoogen smooge@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 12:13, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
On 2/21/22 09:55, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 09:35, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
Greetings and long time not been around.
I am looking at getting a current Centos-arm DNS server going and managed with Webmin instead of doing it myself (currently running my DNS on Cubieboard2 and Centos7 all zones hand-crafted).
So I was looking at getting Centos8-arm and noticed that EoL is 6/30/2024! What?
I have a lot of questions in order to try and answer anything here. When you are speaking about arm, do you mean arm32 or aarch64? Also where did you see the EoL notice? CentOS Stream 8 does end in June 30, 2024 but I don't know where anything mentions CentOS Linux arm for that date.
I should have said, arm32.
So arm32 is a special case being run by a volunteer. The download page you pointed to only covers EL7. EL8 support for ARM32 may be gone and would be hard to continue due to the fact that it is done on EOL hardware. [ It is either done on some donated older hardware or done as virtual machines on Ampere systems which allowed for that. Newer models do not have any ARM32 support in them]. Due to the lack of hardware support and the fact that a lot of software is having a harder time compiling due to the standard 4GB limit, I am expecting that Debian and Yocto will be the only large distributions for ARM32 with 4 years or so.
-- Stephen J Smoogen. Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. -- Ian MacClaren _______________________________________________ Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
Yes, Gordon. I may well come back to RedSleeve where I did some work back 10years ago, about.
Or specific NAS boxes and leave this behind. I am looking at the Synology and Asustor NAS for just a mail server and a DNS server. Internal NAS I went with QNAP, but as decent as QNAP is for SMB, it just does not cut it for these other servers. I was given the QNAP, so that was a big incentive to use it to replace my 10+ yearold CLEAROS server. But so far Synology or Asustor are leading as I look at retiring from this OS stuff other than my notebook's Fedora.
I may have a LOT of Cubieboards (2 and3) available for cheap.
On 2/21/22 14:07, Gordan Bobic wrote:
RedSleeve has had an arm32 el8 build for some time: https://ftp.redsleeve.org/pub/el8/ Since June 2019.
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 9:01 PM Stephen John Smoogen smooge@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 12:13, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
On 2/21/22 09:55, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 09:35, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
Greetings and long time not been around.
I am looking at getting a current Centos-arm DNS server going and managed with Webmin instead of doing it myself (currently running my DNS on Cubieboard2 and Centos7 all zones hand-crafted).
So I was looking at getting Centos8-arm and noticed that EoL is 6/30/2024! What?
I have a lot of questions in order to try and answer anything here. When you are speaking about arm, do you mean arm32 or aarch64? Also where did you see the EoL notice? CentOS Stream 8 does end in June 30, 2024 but I don't know where anything mentions CentOS Linux arm for that date.
I should have said, arm32.
So arm32 is a special case being run by a volunteer. The download page you pointed to only covers EL7. EL8 support for ARM32 may be gone and would be hard to continue due to the fact that it is done on EOL hardware. [ It is either done on some donated older hardware or done as virtual machines on Ampere systems which allowed for that. Newer models do not have any ARM32 support in them]. Due to the lack of hardware support and the fact that a lot of software is having a harder time compiling due to the standard 4GB limit, I am expecting that Debian and Yocto will be the only large distributions for ARM32 with 4 years or so.
-- Stephen J Smoogen. Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. -- Ian MacClaren _______________________________________________ Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
Am 21.02.22 um 22:21 schrieb Robert Moskowitz:
Yes, Gordon. I may well come back to RedSleeve where I did some work back 10years ago, about.
Or specific NAS boxes and leave this behind. I am looking at the Synology and Asustor NAS for just a mail server and a DNS server. Internal NAS I went with QNAP, but as decent as QNAP is for SMB, it just does not cut it for these other servers. I was given the QNAP, so that was a big incentive to use it to replace my 10+ yearold CLEAROS server. But so far Synology or Asustor are leading as I look at retiring from this OS stuff other than my notebook's Fedora.
I may have a LOT of Cubieboards (2 and3) available for cheap.
On 2/21/22 14:07, Gordan Bobic wrote:
RedSleeve has had an arm32 el8 build for some time: https://ftp.redsleeve.org/pub/el8/ Since June 2019.
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 9:01 PM Stephen John Smoogen smooge@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 12:13, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
On 2/21/22 09:55, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 09:35, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
Greetings and long time not been around.
I am looking at getting a current Centos-arm DNS server going and managed with Webmin instead of doing it myself (currently running my DNS on Cubieboard2 and Centos7 all zones hand-crafted).
So I was looking at getting Centos8-arm and noticed that EoL is 6/30/2024! What?
I have a lot of questions in order to try and answer anything here. When you are speaking about arm, do you mean arm32 or aarch64? Also where did you see the EoL notice? CentOS Stream 8 does end in June 30, 2024 but I don't know where anything mentions CentOS Linux arm for that date.
I should have said, arm32.
So arm32 is a special case being run by a volunteer. The download page you pointed to only covers EL7. EL8 support for ARM32 may be gone and would be hard to continue due to the fact that it is done on EOL hardware. [ It is either done on some donated older hardware or done as virtual machines on Ampere systems which allowed for that. Newer models do not have any ARM32 support in them]. Due to the lack of hardware support and the fact that a lot of software is having a harder time compiling due to the standard 4GB limit, I am expecting that Debian and Yocto will be the only large distributions for ARM32 with 4 years or so.
-- Stephen J Smoogen. Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. -- Ian MacClaren _______________________________________________ Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
Hello Robert,
even Fedora will leave the support of arm32 at next release (Fedora 36, Info from Peter Robinson?) I have removed all my Odroid HC1 running as server for various things (DNS, Mail, httpd, Pihole, ...) and replaced with with Raspberry Pi4 on Almalinux and x86_64 Mini-PC also running with Almalinux. So nothing more with arm32.
I'm a fan of CentOS for many years (since CentOS 5).
Andreas
Well, the good news is that EL9 being based on F34, can be easily bootstrapped and rebuilt on F34. And since EL9 will be maintained until 2032+, there is plenty of scope to have EL9 on arm32 supported for the foreseeable future.
On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 9:20 AM Andreas Reschke arm_ml@rirasoft.de wrote:
Am 21.02.22 um 22:21 schrieb Robert Moskowitz:
Yes, Gordon. I may well come back to RedSleeve where I did some work back 10years ago, about.
Or specific NAS boxes and leave this behind. I am looking at the Synology and Asustor NAS for just a mail server and a DNS server. Internal NAS I went with QNAP, but as decent as QNAP is for SMB, it just does not cut it for these other servers. I was given the QNAP, so that was a big incentive to use it to replace my 10+ yearold CLEAROS server. But so far Synology or Asustor are leading as I look at retiring from this OS stuff other than my notebook's Fedora.
I may have a LOT of Cubieboards (2 and3) available for cheap.
On 2/21/22 14:07, Gordan Bobic wrote:
RedSleeve has had an arm32 el8 build for some time: https://ftp.redsleeve.org/pub/el8/ Since June 2019.
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 9:01 PM Stephen John Smoogen smooge@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 12:13, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
On 2/21/22 09:55, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 09:35, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
Greetings and long time not been around.
I am looking at getting a current Centos-arm DNS server going and managed with Webmin instead of doing it myself (currently running my DNS on Cubieboard2 and Centos7 all zones hand-crafted).
So I was looking at getting Centos8-arm and noticed that EoL is 6/30/2024! What?
I have a lot of questions in order to try and answer anything here. When you are speaking about arm, do you mean arm32 or aarch64? Also where did you see the EoL notice? CentOS Stream 8 does end in June 30, 2024 but I don't know where anything mentions CentOS Linux arm for that date.
I should have said, arm32.
So arm32 is a special case being run by a volunteer. The download page you pointed to only covers EL7. EL8 support for ARM32 may be gone and would be hard to continue due to the fact that it is done on EOL hardware. [ It is either done on some donated older hardware or done as virtual machines on Ampere systems which allowed for that. Newer models do not have any ARM32 support in them]. Due to the lack of hardware support and the fact that a lot of software is having a harder time compiling due to the standard 4GB limit, I am expecting that Debian and Yocto will be the only large distributions for ARM32 with 4 years or so.
-- Stephen J Smoogen. Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. -- Ian MacClaren _______________________________________________ Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
Hello Robert,
even Fedora will leave the support of arm32 at next release (Fedora 36, Info from Peter Robinson?) I have removed all my Odroid HC1 running as server for various things (DNS, Mail, httpd, Pihole, ...) and replaced with with Raspberry Pi4 on Almalinux and x86_64 Mini-PC also running with Almalinux. So nothing more with arm32.
I'm a fan of CentOS for many years (since CentOS 5).
Andreas
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
Good to know. I am looking on using this for my DNS.
On 2/22/22 02:26, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Well, the good news is that EL9 being based on F34, can be easily bootstrapped and rebuilt on F34. And since EL9 will be maintained until 2032+, there is plenty of scope to have EL9 on arm32 supported for the foreseeable future.
On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 9:20 AM Andreas Reschke arm_ml@rirasoft.de wrote:
Am 21.02.22 um 22:21 schrieb Robert Moskowitz:
Yes, Gordon. I may well come back to RedSleeve where I did some work back 10years ago, about.
Or specific NAS boxes and leave this behind. I am looking at the Synology and Asustor NAS for just a mail server and a DNS server. Internal NAS I went with QNAP, but as decent as QNAP is for SMB, it just does not cut it for these other servers. I was given the QNAP, so that was a big incentive to use it to replace my 10+ yearold CLEAROS server. But so far Synology or Asustor are leading as I look at retiring from this OS stuff other than my notebook's Fedora.
I may have a LOT of Cubieboards (2 and3) available for cheap.
On 2/21/22 14:07, Gordan Bobic wrote:
RedSleeve has had an arm32 el8 build for some time: https://ftp.redsleeve.org/pub/el8/ Since June 2019.
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 9:01 PM Stephen John Smoogen smooge@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 12:13, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
On 2/21/22 09:55, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 09:35, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote: > Greetings and long time not been around. > > I am looking at getting a current Centos-arm DNS server going and > managed with Webmin instead of doing it myself (currently running > my DNS > on Cubieboard2 and Centos7 all zones hand-crafted). > > So I was looking at getting Centos8-arm and noticed that EoL is > 6/30/2024! What? > I have a lot of questions in order to try and answer anything here. When you are speaking about arm, do you mean arm32 or aarch64? Also where did you see the EoL notice? CentOS Stream 8 does end in June 30, 2024 but I don't know where anything mentions CentOS Linux arm for that date.
I should have said, arm32.
So arm32 is a special case being run by a volunteer. The download page you pointed to only covers EL7. EL8 support for ARM32 may be gone and would be hard to continue due to the fact that it is done on EOL hardware. [ It is either done on some donated older hardware or done as virtual machines on Ampere systems which allowed for that. Newer models do not have any ARM32 support in them]. Due to the lack of hardware support and the fact that a lot of software is having a harder time compiling due to the standard 4GB limit, I am expecting that Debian and Yocto will be the only large distributions for ARM32 with 4 years or so.
-- Stephen J Smoogen. Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. -- Ian MacClaren _______________________________________________ Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
Hello Robert,
even Fedora will leave the support of arm32 at next release (Fedora 36, Info from Peter Robinson?) I have removed all my Odroid HC1 running as server for various things (DNS, Mail, httpd, Pihole, ...) and replaced with with Raspberry Pi4 on Almalinux and x86_64 Mini-PC also running with Almalinux. So nothing more with arm32.
I'm a fan of CentOS for many years (since CentOS 5).
Andreas
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
At this point, people should probably jump ship on CentOS as it is all going "Stream" which probably means it will be less stable than Fedora.
There is always Rocky Linux 8 for ARM
On 2/21/22 08:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Greetings and long time not been around.
I am looking at getting a current Centos-arm DNS server going and managed with Webmin instead of doing it myself (currently running my DNS on Cubieboard2 and Centos7 all zones hand-crafted).
So I was looking at getting Centos8-arm and noticed that EoL is 6/30/2024! What?
The main Centos list talks about Stream 9, but nothing about Linux 9.
What is the status of 9? will we see something, say in the next month when I am likely to do this?
thanks
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
On Feb 21, 2022, at 09:35, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
The main Centos list talks about Stream 9, but nothing about Linux 9.
What is the status of 9? will we see something, say in the next month when I am likely to do this?
The CentOS Project (which turns out effectively to mean RedHat) announced a major change regarding CentOS Linux 8 and later versions a little over a year ago. You can get the details at:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/centos-shifts-from-red-hat-unbranded... https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/centos-shifts-from-red-hat-unbranded-to-red-hat-beta/
Cheers!
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On 2/21/22 10:56, Fred Gleason wrote:
On Feb 21, 2022, at 09:35, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
The main Centos list talks about Stream 9, but nothing about Linux 9.
What is the status of 9? will we see something, say in the next month when I am likely to do this?
The CentOS Project (which turns out effectively to mean RedHat) announced a major change regarding CentOS Linux 8 and later versions a little over a year ago. You can get the details at:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/centos-shifts-from-red-hat-unbranded...
Cheers!
Interesting and sad. I actually ran WhiteHat back in the day and move to Centos when WhiteHat stopped getting updates. Single person distro could be like that back then. I did not start using Fedora until 6 before I would trust it.
Now I only have Centos on arm32. Just turned off my ClearOS6 server for a QNAP NAS.
I am looking for what I am going to replace my Centos arm32 DNS server with. So far, nothing commercial is priced right and does what little I need. So Centos8 with Webmin seemed likely. But the above article says that Centos8 is already past EoL! Not 2029...
My mail server is actually RedSleeve6! And I am considering a asustor NAS as only a mailserver as its replacement (unless someone can recommend another arm mailserver for multiple domains).
So at age 72, it is coming to a wrap for me. I will continue with Fedora on my notebook, but various servers, will where possible go to supported boxes like the QNAP.
On 2/21/22 11:32, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 2/21/22 10:56, Fred Gleason wrote:
On Feb 21, 2022, at 09:35, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
The main Centos list talks about Stream 9, but nothing about Linux 9.
What is the status of 9? will we see something, say in the next month when I am likely to do this?
The CentOS Project (which turns out effectively to mean RedHat) announced a major change regarding CentOS Linux 8 and later versions a little over a year ago. You can get the details at:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/centos-shifts-from-red-hat-unbranded...
Cheers!
Interesting and sad. I actually ran WhiteHat back in the day and move to Centos when WhiteHat stopped getting updates. Single person distro could be like that back then. I did not start using Fedora until 6 before I would trust it.
Now I only have Centos on arm32. Just turned off my ClearOS6 server for a QNAP NAS.
I am looking for what I am going to replace my Centos arm32 DNS server with. So far, nothing commercial is priced right and does what little I need. So Centos8 with Webmin seemed likely. But the above article says that Centos8 is already past EoL! Not 2029...
My mail server is actually RedSleeve6! And I am considering a asustor NAS as only a mailserver as its replacement (unless someone can recommend another arm mailserver for multiple domains).
So at age 72, it is coming to a wrap for me. I will continue with Fedora on my notebook, but various servers, will where possible go to supported boxes like the QNAP.
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
As I mentioned, Rocky Linux is taking up the slack from CentOS
On 2/21/22 12:47, Trent Creekmore wrote:
On 2/21/22 11:32, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 2/21/22 10:56, Fred Gleason wrote:
On Feb 21, 2022, at 09:35, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
The main Centos list talks about Stream 9, but nothing about Linux 9.
What is the status of 9? will we see something, say in the next month when I am likely to do this?
The CentOS Project (which turns out effectively to mean RedHat) announced a major change regarding CentOS Linux 8 and later versions a little over a year ago. You can get the details at:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/centos-shifts-from-red-hat-unbranded...
Cheers!
Interesting and sad. I actually ran WhiteHat back in the day and move to Centos when WhiteHat stopped getting updates. Single person distro could be like that back then. I did not start using Fedora until 6 before I would trust it.
Now I only have Centos on arm32. Just turned off my ClearOS6 server for a QNAP NAS.
I am looking for what I am going to replace my Centos arm32 DNS server with. So far, nothing commercial is priced right and does what little I need. So Centos8 with Webmin seemed likely. But the above article says that Centos8 is already past EoL! Not 2029...
My mail server is actually RedSleeve6! And I am considering a asustor NAS as only a mailserver as its replacement (unless someone can recommend another arm mailserver for multiple domains).
So at age 72, it is coming to a wrap for me. I will continue with Fedora on my notebook, but various servers, will where possible go to supported boxes like the QNAP.
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
As I mentioned, Rocky Linux is taking up the slack from CentOS
No arm32.
At least yet.
At 10:02 AM 2/21/2022, you wrote:
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On 2/21/22 12:47, Trent Creekmore wrote:
On 2/21/22 11:32, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 2/21/22 10:56, Fred Gleason wrote:
On Feb 21, 2022, at 09:35, Robert Moskowitz <mailto:rgm@htt-consult.comrgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
The main Centos list talks about Stream 9, but nothing about Linux 9.
What is the status of 9? will we see something, say in the next month when I am likely to do this?
The CentOS Project (which turns out effectively to mean RedHat) announced a major change regarding CentOS Linux 8 and later versions a little over a year ago. You can get the details at:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/centos-shifts-from-red-hat-unbranded-to-red-hat-beta/https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/centos-shifts-from-red-hat-unbranded...
Cheers!
Interesting and sad. I actually ran WhiteHat back in the day and move to Centos when WhiteHat stopped getting updates. Single person distro could be like that back then. I did not start using Fedora until 6 before I would trust it.
Now I only have Centos on arm32. Just turned off my ClearOS6 server for a QNAP NAS.
I am looking for what I am going to replace my Centos arm32 DNS server with. So far, nothing commercial is priced right and does what little I need. So Centos8 with Webmin seemed likely. But the above article says that Centos8 is already past EoL! Not 2029...
My mail server is actually RedSleeve6! And I am considering a asustor NAS as only a mailserver as its replacement (unless someone can recommend another arm mailserver for multiple domains).
So at age 72, it is coming to a wrap for me. I will continue with Fedora on my notebook, but various servers, will where possible go to supported boxes like the QNAP.
Robert: For many of the reasons you have encountered, I reluctantly left Centos and moved to Ubuntu. The transition wasn't trivial, but I adapted my maintenance scripts to it, and they're doing just fine on Raspberry Pi 3, Macpro Servers, and x64 boxes. I no longer have any x86 boxes, so I can't say anything about 32-bit intel/amd systems. I had to learn several utilities, like Netplan, was forced into Firewalld and systemd, and had to figure out where several configuration files were. But it all worked. I wish you luck. David
On Feb 21, 2022, at 12:32, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
I am looking for what I am going to replace my Centos arm32 DNS server with. So far, nothing commercial is priced right and does what little I need. So Centos8 with Webmin seemed likely. But the above article says that Centos8 is already past EoL! Not 2029…
The future of arm32 on RedHat-ish systems was looking bleak even before the CentOS announcement. I can’t find it right now, but there was a long post from one of the senior ARM people at RedHat a couple of years ago talking about how making an arm32 port was going to be effectively impossible starting with RHEL-8, due to changes in the way system configurations were managed in the kernel.
Assuming that those changes actually happened (haven’t looked, all of my production workloads are still on RedSleeve 7), that would seem to leave only Debian and its various derivatives —e.g. Raspbian— for arm32, with all of the volatility that that implies. Not a good prospect. :(
Cheers!
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RedSleeve is sticking with arm32 for now, though it is soft-float only at the moment. There was a recent conversation about finally dropping ARMv5 support because some of the more critical packages for desktop use will no longer build on ARMv5.
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 8:09 PM Fred Gleason fredg@paravelsystems.com wrote:
On Feb 21, 2022, at 12:32, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
I am looking for what I am going to replace my Centos arm32 DNS server with. So far, nothing commercial is priced right and does what little I need. So Centos8 with Webmin seemed likely. But the above article says that Centos8 is already past EoL! Not 2029…
The future of arm32 on RedHat-ish systems was looking bleak even before the CentOS announcement. I can’t find it right now, but there was a long post from one of the senior ARM people at RedHat a couple of years ago talking about how making an arm32 port was going to be effectively impossible starting with RHEL-8, due to changes in the way system configurations were managed in the kernel.
Assuming that those changes actually happened (haven’t looked, all of my production workloads are still on RedSleeve 7), that would seem to leave only Debian and its various derivatives —e.g. Raspbian— for arm32, with all of the volatility that that implies. Not a good prospect. :(
Cheers!
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