Hi there, I want to replace some servers (SOHO, Mail-, web-, Infrastructure, X86_64, all with CentOS) with ARM-Servers. I've a /home-Server with Odroid XU4 (Cloudshell) with Fedora running fine.
Are there other ARM-Devices running CentOS easy?
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Reschke
Hello
My bananapi m1 works well on centos 7 :-)
I think others can tell about rpi2
-------- Message d'origine -------- De : Andreas Reschke andreas@rirasoft.de Envoyé : 1 décembre 2015 11:11:53 GMT+01:00 À : arm-dev@centos.org Objet : [Arm-dev] What's the best support hardware model ?
Hi there, I want to replace some servers (SOHO, Mail-, web-, Infrastructure, X86_64, all with CentOS) with ARM-Servers. I've a /home-Server with Odroid XU4 (Cloudshell) with Fedora running fine.
Are there other ARM-Devices running CentOS easy?
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Reschke
I didn't think Centos 7 armv7hl is GA yet. Did I miss the big release announcement?
For low CPU intensity tasks, especially if you require something neat and tidy, I would suggest something like a QNAP NAS (e.g. I run a QNAP TS-421 with EL7, 2GHz armv5tel CPU, 1GB of RAM). If you need less than that, a Tonido Plug is a reasonable choice (800MHz CPU, 512MB of RAM, internal SATA 2.5" disk slot).
The main problem I have with various dev boards (and let's face it, most ARM hardware is just dev boards no matter how they are marketed) is that the only choice you have for avoiding a mess of gangling cables and exposed PCBs is to get busy building cases out of lego. Hence the above recommendations.
Gordan
On 2015-12-01 10:13, Nicolas Repentin wrote:
Hello
My bananapi m1 works well on centos 7 :-)
I think others can tell about rpi2
DE : Andreas Reschke andreas@rirasoft.de ENVOYÉ : 1 décembre 2015 11:11:53 GMT+01:00 À : arm-dev@centos.org OBJET : [Arm-dev] What's the best support hardware model ?
Hi there, I want to replace some servers (SOHO, Mail-, web-, Infrastructure, X86_64, all with CentOS) with ARM-Servers. I've a /home-Server with Odroid XU4 (Cloudshell) with Fedora running fine.
Are there other ARM-Devices running CentOS easy?
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Reschke
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On 01/12/15 11:11, Andreas Reschke wrote:
Hi there, I want to replace some servers (SOHO, Mail-, web-, Infrastructure, X86_64, all with CentOS) with ARM-Servers. I've a /home-Server with Odroid XU4 (Cloudshell) with Fedora running fine.
Are there other ARM-Devices running CentOS easy?
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Reschke
We're *currently* building CentOS 7 images for armv7hl, and what we have working/validated so far : - - bananapi - - cubietruck - - raspberrypi2
I'd like myself to see it working on Odroid c1, but the fact that hardkernel guys don't have it supported in upstream kernel doesn't help (and just having it compiling doesn't work on my side -yet- )
Does Fedora just runs fine on your xu4 ? (I mean is that an official Fedora image, or a custom one found on internet). If that's an official one, chances are high that it can work fine, but that would need to be tested
So "stay tuned" .. ;-)
- -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab
I'd like myself to see it working on Odroid c1, but the fact that hardkernel guys don't have it supported in upstream kernel doesn't help (and just having it compiling doesn't work on my side -yet- )
I have tried the kernel from https://github.com/hardkernel/linux in September and I think it worked fine on my Odroid C1 except for the HDMI output. So, I didn't include it in the github repo for RootFS Build Factory. The kernel presently in the repo is one borrowed from Ubuntu, which supports HDMI output. One point I should probably mention is that I cross compiled the kernel and I am guessing that you built it on an arm node.
Regards Mandar Joshi
On 1 decembrie 2015 13:26:03 EET, Mandar Joshi emailmandar@gmail.com wrote:
I'd like myself to see it working on Odroid c1, but the fact that hardkernel guys don't have it supported in upstream kernel doesn't help (and just having it compiling doesn't work on my side -yet- )
I have tried the kernel from https://github.com/hardkernel/linux in September and I think it worked fine on my Odroid C1 except for the HDMI output. So, I didn't include it in the github repo for RootFS Build Factory. The kernel presently in the repo is one borrowed from Ubuntu, which supports HDMI output. One point I should probably mention is that I cross compiled the kernel and I am guessing that you built it on an arm node.
I will gladly test on my U3 if an image is made available
Manuel
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On 01/12/15 12:26, Mandar Joshi wrote:
I'd like myself to see it working on Odroid c1, but the fact that hardkernel guys don't have it supported in upstream kernel doesn't help (and just having it compiling doesn't work on my side -yet- )
I have tried the kernel from https://github.com/hardkernel/linux in September and I think it worked fine on my Odroid C1 except for the HDMI output. So, I didn't include it in the github repo for RootFS Build Factory. The kernel presently in the repo is one borrowed from Ubuntu, which supports HDMI output. One point I should probably mention is that I cross compiled the kernel and I am guessing that you built it on an arm node.
Regards Mandar Joshi
Yes, trying to compile on arm the odroid c1 kernel, but even if the uImage seems fine, it doesn't boot :
"Uncompressing Kernel Image ... LZO: uncompress or overwrite error -6 "
That's what I have when booting with the generated uImage-3.10.80, while it boots fine with the uImage (coming from ubuntu, so something we'll never ship, as we'll only build images with packages built on the centos infra, and reproduceable, like I've done for the raspberrypi2 kernels, built through mock in rpm format)
file /boot/uImage-3.10.80 /boot/uImage-3.10.80: u-boot legacy uImage, Linux-3.10.80, Linux/ARM, OS Kernel Image 5553029 bytes, Mon Nov 30 11:08:20 2015, Load Address: 0x00208000, Entry Point: 0x00208000, Header CRC: 0x17C04E9A, Data CRC: 0xECDCD6F8
file /boot/uImage /boot/uImage: u-boot legacy uImage, Linux-3.10.66-49, Linux/ARM, OS Kernel Image 5380913 bytes, Sat Jan 31 00:17:58 2015, Load Address: 0x00208000, Entry Point: 0x00208000, Header CRC: 0x474F02F7, Data CRC: 0xA1AFEECF
The file /boot/uImage-3.10.80 was built on the odroid c1, with the following gcc/glibc : gcc-4.8.5-4.el7.armv7hl glibc-2.17-105.el7.armv7hl
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Fabian,
That's what I have when booting with the generated uImage-3.10.80, while it boots fine with the uImage (coming from ubuntu, so something we'll never ship, as we'll only build images with packages built on the centos infra, and reproduceable, like I've done for the raspberrypi2 kernels, built through mock in rpm format)
I'll keep this in mind.
Manuel,
I will gladly test on my U3 if an image is made available
The XU3 requires a completely different kernel according to this http://odroid.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=en:xu3_building_kernel XU3 requires the branch odroidxu3-3.10.y and the C1 requires the branch odroidc-3.10.y
Regards Mandar Joshi
I built a CentOS 7.1 XU4 image back in October which is also tested on XU3.
You can get it from here: https://gitlab.com/pixdrift/cendroid-xu4
It uses the official Cubitruck CentOS 7 image with HardKernel compiled 3.10.82 kernel.
Oh, thank you. I will fetch it.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Reschke --
Andreas Reschke, Kelterstrasse 50, 74321 Bietigheim-Bissingen Tel.: 07142-3781102/03 Mail: andreas@rirasoft.de Originalnachricht Von: PixelDrift.NET Sam Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2015 13:03 An: Conversations around CentOS on ARM hardware Antwort an: Conversations around CentOS on ARM hardware Betreff: Re: [Arm-dev] What's the best support hardware model ?
I built a CentOS 7.1 XU4 image back in October which is also tested on XU3.
You can get it from here: https://gitlab.com/pixdrift/cendroid-xu4
It uses the official Cubitruck CentOS 7 image with HardKernel compiled 3.10.82 kernel. _______________________________________________ Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
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On 01/12/15 13:02, PixelDrift.NET Sam wrote:
I built a CentOS 7.1 XU4 image back in October which is also tested on XU3.
You can get it from here: https://gitlab.com/pixdrift/cendroid-xu4
It uses the official Cubitruck CentOS 7 image with HardKernel compiled 3.10.82 kernel.
Interesting .. do you have any .spec for that kernel, so that we can build/test/ship it too ?
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On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Fabian Arrotin arrfab@centos.org wrote:
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On 01/12/15 13:02, PixelDrift.NET Sam wrote:
I built a CentOS 7.1 XU4 image back in October which is also tested on XU3.
You can get it from here: https://gitlab.com/pixdrift/cendroid-xu4
It uses the official Cubitruck CentOS 7 image with HardKernel compiled 3.10.82 kernel.
Interesting .. do you have any .spec for that kernel, so that we can build/test/ship it too ?
Unfortunately no, I didn't build from source sorry.
I extracted the kernel image from the HardKernel Ubuntu OS image after hitting issues with building the patched XU3/4 kernel from scratch.
It must be getting close to mainline support, 4.2rc1 had basic support and would boot XU4 with some limitations (HDMI support being the major one).
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On 2015-12-01 12:43, PixelDrift.NET Sam wrote:
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Fabian Arrotin arrfab@centos.org wrote:
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On 01/12/15 13:02, PixelDrift.NET Sam wrote:
I built a CentOS 7.1 XU4 image back in October which is also tested on XU3.
You can get it from here: https://gitlab.com/pixdrift/cendroid-xu4
It uses the official Cubitruck CentOS 7 image with HardKernel compiled 3.10.82 kernel.
Interesting .. do you have any .spec for that kernel, so that we can build/test/ship it too ?
Unfortunately no, I didn't build from source sorry.
I extracted the kernel image from the HardKernel Ubuntu OS image after hitting issues with building the patched XU3/4 kernel from scratch.
If you have the source and the .config they used, you should be able to re-use the spec from this with minimal modifications:
http://ftp.redsleeve.org/pub/el7/packages/extra/SRPMS/kernel-kirkwood-3.10.9...
Gordan
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:49 PM, Gordan Bobic gordan@redsleeve.org wrote:
On 2015-12-01 12:43, PixelDrift.NET Sam wrote:
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Fabian Arrotin arrfab@centos.org wrote:
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On 01/12/15 13:02, PixelDrift.NET Sam wrote:
I built a CentOS 7.1 XU4 image back in October which is also tested on XU3.
You can get it from here: https://gitlab.com/pixdrift/cendroid-xu4
It uses the official Cubitruck CentOS 7 image with HardKernel compiled 3.10.82 kernel.
Interesting .. do you have any .spec for that kernel, so that we can build/test/ship it too ?
Unfortunately no, I didn't build from source sorry.
I extracted the kernel image from the HardKernel Ubuntu OS image after hitting issues with building the patched XU3/4 kernel from scratch.
If you have the source and the .config they used, you should be able to re-use the spec from this with minimal modifications:
http://ftp.redsleeve.org/pub/el7/packages/extra/SRPMS/kernel-kirkwood-3.10.9...
Gordan
Thanks for that.
The modified source and config are here: https://github.com/hardkernel/linux/tree/odroidxu3-3.10.y https://github.com/hardkernel/linux/blob/odroidxu3-3.10.y/arch/arm/configs/o...
The build process is documented here: http://odroid.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=en:xu3_building_kernel
If I get a minute i'll try building on the XU4 with your .spec. If anyone else attempts it or has success, please let us know.
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On 01/12/15 12:52, Mandar Joshi wrote:
Fabian,
That's what I have when booting with the generated uImage-3.10.80, while it boots fine with the uImage (coming from ubuntu, so something we'll never ship, as we'll only build images with packages built on the centos infra, and reproduceable, like I've done for the raspberrypi2 kernels, built through mock in rpm format)
I'll keep this in mind.
Manuel,
I will gladly test on my U3 if an image is made available
The XU3 requires a completely different kernel according to this http://odroid.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=en:xu3_building_kernel XU3 requires the branch odroidxu3-3.10.y and the C1 requires the branch odroidc-3.10.y
for the U3 (as asked by Manuel), we can reuse the work done by Jacco (from RedSleeve) as it's available as SRPM (not tested yet) : http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.redsleeve.org/pub/el7-devel/el7/odroi...
But XU3 != U3 ;-)
IF someone can come with a proper .spec for the odroid various kernels, that's something we can investigate (I'm busy on that one, but lower priority today)
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On 1 decembrie 2015 13:52:50 EET, Mandar Joshi emailmandar@gmail.com wrote:
The XU3 requires a completely different kernel according to this http://odroid.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=en:xu3_building_kernel XU3 requires the branch odroidxu3-3.10.y and the C1 requires the branch odroidc-3.10.y
With the ammendment that U3 uses Exynos 4412 while XU3 is built around Exynos 5422 . I have not verified if they can share the same kernel branch.
Am 01.12.2015 11:23, schrieb Fabian Arrotin:
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On 01/12/15 11:11, Andreas Reschke wrote:
Hi there, I want to replace some servers (SOHO, Mail-, web-, Infrastructure, X86_64, all with CentOS) with ARM-Servers. I've a /home-Server with Odroid XU4 (Cloudshell) with Fedora running fine.
Are there other ARM-Devices running CentOS easy?
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Reschke
We're *currently* building CentOS 7 images for armv7hl, and what we have working/validated so far :
- bananapi
- cubietruck
- raspberrypi2
I'd like myself to see it working on Odroid c1, but the fact that hardkernel guys don't have it supported in upstream kernel doesn't help (and just having it compiling doesn't work on my side -yet- )
Does Fedora just runs fine on your xu4 ? (I mean is that an official Fedora image, or a custom one found on internet). If that's an official one, chances are high that it can work fine, but that would need to be tested
So "stay tuned" .. ;-)
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Thanks all for your replay.
I will compare the Odroid Xu4 with the cubietruck.
@Fabian: Yes, Fedora runs fine on my Odroid XU4 with the Cloudshell and the integrated TFT-Display. [root@odroid ~]# uname -a Linux odroid.reschke.lan 4.2.0+ #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Oct 1 13:28:39 CEST 2015 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux [root@odroid ~]# http://odroid.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=en:xu4_building_kernel
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Reschke
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On 01/12/15 12:38, Andreas Reschke wrote:
Am 01.12.2015 11:23, schrieb Fabian Arrotin: On 01/12/15 11:11, Andreas Reschke wrote:
Hi there, I want to replace some servers (SOHO, Mail-, web-, Infrastructure, X86_64, all with CentOS) with ARM-Servers. I've a /home-Server with Odroid XU4 (Cloudshell) with Fedora running fine.
Are there other ARM-Devices running CentOS easy?
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Reschke
We're *currently* building CentOS 7 images for armv7hl, and what we have working/validated so far : - bananapi - cubietruck - raspberrypi2
I'd like myself to see it working on Odroid c1, but the fact that hardkernel guys don't have it supported in upstream kernel doesn't help (and just having it compiling doesn't work on my side -yet- )
Does Fedora just runs fine on your xu4 ? (I mean is that an official Fedora image, or a custom one found on internet). If that's an official one, chances are high that it can work fine, but that would need to be tested
So "stay tuned" .. ;-)
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Thanks all for your replay.
I will compare the Odroid Xu4 with the cubietruck.
@Fabian: Yes, Fedora runs fine on my Odroid XU4 with the Cloudshell and the integrated TFT-Display. [root@odroid ~]# uname -a Linux odroid.reschke.lan 4.2.0+ #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Oct 1 13:28:39 CEST 2015 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux [root@odroid ~]# http://odroid.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=en:xu4_building_kernel
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Reschke
Well, my question around Fedora was about using the stock image from Fedora (and so "stock" fedora kernel), but you pointed to the odroid forum and custom kernel build, so can you clarify if you're running Fedora "official" image, or a custom one with a custom kernel ?
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On 2015-12-01 11:43, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
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On 01/12/15 12:38, Andreas Reschke wrote:
Am 01.12.2015 11:23, schrieb Fabian Arrotin: On 01/12/15 11:11, Andreas Reschke wrote:
Hi there, I want to replace some servers (SOHO, Mail-, web-, Infrastructure, X86_64, all with CentOS) with ARM-Servers. I've a /home-Server with Odroid XU4 (Cloudshell) with Fedora running fine.
Are there other ARM-Devices running CentOS easy?
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Reschke
We're *currently* building CentOS 7 images for armv7hl, and what we have working/validated so far : - bananapi - cubietruck - raspberrypi2
I'd like myself to see it working on Odroid c1, but the fact that hardkernel guys don't have it supported in upstream kernel doesn't help (and just having it compiling doesn't work on my side -yet- )
Does Fedora just runs fine on your xu4 ? (I mean is that an official Fedora image, or a custom one found on internet). If that's an official one, chances are high that it can work fine, but that would need to be tested
So "stay tuned" .. ;-)
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Thanks all for your replay.
I will compare the Odroid Xu4 with the cubietruck.
@Fabian: Yes, Fedora runs fine on my Odroid XU4 with the Cloudshell and the integrated TFT-Display. [root@odroid ~]# uname -a Linux odroid.reschke.lan 4.2.0+ #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Oct 1 13:28:39 CEST 2015 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux [root@odroid ~]# http://odroid.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=en:xu4_building_kernel
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Reschke
Well, my question around Fedora was about using the stock image from Fedora (and so "stock" fedora kernel), but you pointed to the odroid forum and custom kernel build, so can you clarify if you're running Fedora "official" image, or a custom one with a custom kernel ?
If you have Fedora working, there should be no reason why you couldn't simply use the Fedora kernel with CentOS.
Gordan
No, no stock Fedora Image. Kernel from hardkernel and only the OS from Fedora.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Reschke --
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On 01/12/15 12:38, Andreas Reschke wrote:
Am 01.12.2015 11:23, schrieb Fabian Arrotin: On 01/12/15 11:11, Andreas Reschke wrote:
Hi there, I want to replace some servers (SOHO, Mail-, web-, Infrastructure, X86_64, all with CentOS) with ARM-Servers. I've a /home-Server with Odroid XU4 (Cloudshell) with Fedora running fine.
Are there other ARM-Devices running CentOS easy?
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Reschke
We're *currently* building CentOS 7 images for armv7hl, and what we have working/validated so far : - bananapi - cubietruck - raspberrypi2
I'd like myself to see it working on Odroid c1, but the fact that hardkernel guys don't have it supported in upstream kernel doesn't help (and just having it compiling doesn't work on my side -yet- )
Does Fedora just runs fine on your xu4 ? (I mean is that an official Fedora image, or a custom one found on internet). If that's an official one, chances are high that it can work fine, but that would need to be tested
So "stay tuned" .. ;-)
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Thanks all for your replay.
I will compare the Odroid Xu4 with the cubietruck.
@Fabian: Yes, Fedora runs fine on my Odroid XU4 with the Cloudshell and the integrated TFT-Display. [root@odroid ~]# uname -a Linux odroid.reschke.lan 4.2.0+ #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Oct 1 13:28:39 CEST 2015 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux [root@odroid ~]# http://odroid.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=en:xu4_building_kernel
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Reschke
Well, my question around Fedora was about using the stock image from Fedora (and so "stock" fedora kernel), but you pointed to the odroid forum and custom kernel build, so can you clarify if you're running Fedora "official" image, or a custom one with a custom kernel ?
- -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab
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On 01/12/15 10:11, Andreas Reschke wrote:
Hi there, I want to replace some servers (SOHO, Mail-, web-, Infrastructure, X86_64, all with CentOS) with ARM-Servers. I've a /home-Server with Odroid XU4 (Cloudshell) with Fedora running fine.
Are there other ARM-Devices running CentOS easy?
there are -no- ARMv7 grade server hardware available, there are single board units, none of which are capable of running infrastructure services for any reasonable performance. the cubietruck seems the most 'capable' but still falls well short of reasonable performance.
There are however ARMv8 based server's that are available, the APM Mustang class of boards are well supported in CentOS Linux 7 and are perhaps the most widely available.
this does however take into consideration my own interpretation of what might be considered 'reasonable performance'.
regards,
On 2015-12-01 12:12, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 01/12/15 10:11, Andreas Reschke wrote:
Hi there, I want to replace some servers (SOHO, Mail-, web-, Infrastructure, X86_64, all with CentOS) with ARM-Servers. I've a /home-Server with Odroid XU4 (Cloudshell) with Fedora running fine.
Are there other ARM-Devices running CentOS easy?
there are -no- ARMv7 grade server hardware available, there are single board units, none of which are capable of running infrastructure services for any reasonable performance. the cubietruck seems the most 'capable' but still falls well short of reasonable performance.
There are however ARMv8 based server's that are available, the APM Mustang class of boards are well supported in CentOS Linux 7 and are perhaps the most widely available.
this does however take into consideration my own interpretation of what might be considered 'reasonable performance'.
ARMv7 server grade hardware does exist. It wasn't so long ago that I was helping the guys at Boston get RedSleeve 6 getting up and running on their Viridis servers:
https://www.boston.co.uk/solutions/viridis/default.aspx
The biggest limitation with 32-bit ARM hardware isn't the CPU performance but the 4GB RAM limit, and the vast majority of devices comes with far, far less than 4GB; 512MB-1GB is much more typical. If your workload fits within that memory envelope, I find the performance isn't too bad for a variety of workloads.
Gordan
On 01/12/15 12:32, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 2015-12-01 12:12, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 01/12/15 10:11, Andreas Reschke wrote:
Hi there, I want to replace some servers (SOHO, Mail-, web-, Infrastructure, X86_64, all with CentOS) with ARM-Servers. I've a /home-Server with Odroid XU4 (Cloudshell) with Fedora running fine.
Are there other ARM-Devices running CentOS easy?
there are -no- ARMv7 grade server hardware available, there are single board units, none of which are capable of running infrastructure services for any reasonable performance. the cubietruck seems the most 'capable' but still falls well short of reasonable performance.
There are however ARMv8 based server's that are available, the APM Mustang class of boards are well supported in CentOS Linux 7 and are perhaps the most widely available.
this does however take into consideration my own interpretation of what might be considered 'reasonable performance'.
ARMv7 server grade hardware does exist. It wasn't so long ago that I was helping the guys at Boston get RedSleeve 6 getting up and running on their Viridis servers:
I believe the viridis platform has been discontinued for a few years now,
On 2015-12-01 12:36, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 01/12/15 12:32, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 2015-12-01 12:12, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 01/12/15 10:11, Andreas Reschke wrote:
Hi there, I want to replace some servers (SOHO, Mail-, web-, Infrastructure, X86_64, all with CentOS) with ARM-Servers. I've a /home-Server with Odroid XU4 (Cloudshell) with Fedora running fine.
Are there other ARM-Devices running CentOS easy?
there are -no- ARMv7 grade server hardware available, there are single board units, none of which are capable of running infrastructure services for any reasonable performance. the cubietruck seems the most 'capable' but still falls well short of reasonable performance.
There are however ARMv8 based server's that are available, the APM Mustang class of boards are well supported in CentOS Linux 7 and are perhaps the most widely available.
this does however take into consideration my own interpretation of what might be considered 'reasonable performance'.
ARMv7 server grade hardware does exist. It wasn't so long ago that I was helping the guys at Boston get RedSleeve 6 getting up and running on their Viridis servers:
I believe the viridis platform has been discontinued for a few years now,
Has it? I seem to recall getting RSEL6 running on it 4 years ago, and it has had a refresh since then. If it has been discontinued it must have been relatively recently.
And decent ARMv8 hardware is not actually that easily available, at least in UK. There's a lot of posturing and press releases but very little actual hardware to show for it. And if you can ever find it commercially it is disproportionately expensive for what it is.
Gordan
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Gordan Bobic gordan@redsleeve.org wrote:
On 2015-12-01 12:36, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 01/12/15 12:32, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 2015-12-01 12:12, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 01/12/15 10:11, Andreas Reschke wrote:
Hi there, I want to replace some servers (SOHO, Mail-, web-, Infrastructure, X86_64, all with CentOS) with ARM-Servers. I've a /home-Server with Odroid XU4 (Cloudshell) with Fedora running fine.
Are there other ARM-Devices running CentOS easy?
there are -no- ARMv7 grade server hardware available, there are single board units, none of which are capable of running infrastructure services for any reasonable performance. the cubietruck seems the most 'capable' but still falls well short of reasonable performance.
There are however ARMv8 based server's that are available, the APM Mustang class of boards are well supported in CentOS Linux 7 and are perhaps the most widely available.
this does however take into consideration my own interpretation of what might be considered 'reasonable performance'.
ARMv7 server grade hardware does exist. It wasn't so long ago that I was helping the guys at Boston get RedSleeve 6 getting up and running on their Viridis servers:
I believe the viridis platform has been discontinued for a few years now,
Has it? I seem to recall getting RSEL6 running on it 4 years ago, and it has had a refresh since then. If it has been discontinued it must have been relatively recently.
And decent ARMv8 hardware is not actually that easily available, at least in UK. There's a lot of posturing and press releases but very little actual hardware to show for it. And if you can ever find it commercially it is disproportionately expensive for what it is.
Gordan
My experience has been identical.
There appears to be a lot of talk around ARMv8, but I have been unable to find any hardware at close to reasonable prices (keen for suggestions).
I have been considering the Nvidia Shield while I wait for decent server hardware to turn up, can anyone provide feedback on this hardware?
Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
On 01/12/15 12:59, PixelDrift.NET Sam wrote:
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Gordan Bobic gordan@redsleeve.org wrote:
On 2015-12-01 12:36, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 01/12/15 12:32, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 2015-12-01 12:12, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 01/12/15 10:11, Andreas Reschke wrote:
Hi there, I want to replace some servers (SOHO, Mail-, web-, Infrastructure, X86_64, all with CentOS) with ARM-Servers. I've a /home-Server with Odroid XU4 (Cloudshell) with Fedora running fine.
Are there other ARM-Devices running CentOS easy?
there are -no- ARMv7 grade server hardware available, there are single board units, none of which are capable of running infrastructure services for any reasonable performance. the cubietruck seems the most 'capable' but still falls well short of reasonable performance.
There are however ARMv8 based server's that are available, the APM Mustang class of boards are well supported in CentOS Linux 7 and are perhaps the most widely available.
this does however take into consideration my own interpretation of what might be considered 'reasonable performance'.
ARMv7 server grade hardware does exist. It wasn't so long ago that I was helping the guys at Boston get RedSleeve 6 getting up and running on their Viridis servers:
I believe the viridis platform has been discontinued for a few years now,
Has it? I seem to recall getting RSEL6 running on it 4 years ago, and it has had a refresh since then. If it has been discontinued it must have been relatively recently.
late 2013 I believe it was discontinued.
And decent ARMv8 hardware is not actually that easily available, at least in UK. There's a lot of posturing and press releases but very little actual hardware to show for it. And if you can ever find it commercially it is disproportionately expensive for what it is.
Gordan
My experience has been identical.
There appears to be a lot of talk around ARMv8, but I have been unable to find any hardware at close to reasonable prices (keen for suggestions).
For v8 itself the 96boards are available, I've seen lots of those ( and have a few myself, bought in retail ).
I have been considering the Nvidia Shield while I wait for decent server hardware to turn up, can anyone provide feedback on this hardware?
On 2015-12-01 13:05, Karanbir Singh wrote:
And decent ARMv8 hardware is not actually that easily available, at least in UK. There's a lot of posturing and press releases but very little actual hardware to show for it. And if you can ever find it commercially it is disproportionately expensive for what it is.
My experience has been identical.
There appears to be a lot of talk around ARMv8, but I have been unable to find any hardware at close to reasonable prices (keen for suggestions).
For v8 itself the 96boards are available, I've seen lots of those ( and have a few myself, bought in retail ).
Really? I emailed them about pricing and availability and never heard back.
Gordan
On 01/12/15 13:12, Gordan Bobic wrote:
For v8 itself the 96boards are available, I've seen lots of those ( and have a few myself, bought in retail ).
Really? I emailed them about pricing and availability and never heard back.
okay.
I just clicked the buy button, paid for it, and it showed up at my doorstep.
On 2015-12-01 13:16, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 01/12/15 13:12, Gordan Bobic wrote:
For v8 itself the 96boards are available, I've seen lots of those ( and have a few myself, bought in retail ).
Really? I emailed them about pricing and availability and never heard back.
okay.
I just clicked the buy button, paid for it, and it showed up at my doorstep.
I am talking about their enterprise range which is still not listed as available. My interest in random dev board grade kit is rapidly disappearing. It is just too inconvenient. If it's not in fully compliant *TX form factor in terms of both mounting and power.
Gordan
On 2015-12-01 12:59, PixelDrift.NET Sam wrote:
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Gordan Bobic gordan@redsleeve.org wrote:
On 2015-12-01 12:36, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 01/12/15 12:32, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 2015-12-01 12:12, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 01/12/15 10:11, Andreas Reschke wrote:
Hi there, I want to replace some servers (SOHO, Mail-, web-, Infrastructure, X86_64, all with CentOS) with ARM-Servers. I've a /home-Server with Odroid XU4 (Cloudshell) with Fedora running fine.
Are there other ARM-Devices running CentOS easy?
there are -no- ARMv7 grade server hardware available, there are single board units, none of which are capable of running infrastructure services for any reasonable performance. the cubietruck seems the most 'capable' but still falls well short of reasonable performance.
There are however ARMv8 based server's that are available, the APM Mustang class of boards are well supported in CentOS Linux 7 and are perhaps the most widely available.
this does however take into consideration my own interpretation of what might be considered 'reasonable performance'.
ARMv7 server grade hardware does exist. It wasn't so long ago that I was helping the guys at Boston get RedSleeve 6 getting up and running on their Viridis servers:
I believe the viridis platform has been discontinued for a few years now,
Has it? I seem to recall getting RSEL6 running on it 4 years ago, and it has had a refresh since then. If it has been discontinued it must have been relatively recently.
And decent ARMv8 hardware is not actually that easily available, at least in UK. There's a lot of posturing and press releases but very little actual hardware to show for it. And if you can ever find it commercially it is disproportionately expensive for what it is.
Gordan
My experience has been identical.
There appears to be a lot of talk around ARMv8, but I have been unable to find any hardware at close to reasonable prices (keen for suggestions).
I have been considering the Nvidia Shield while I wait for decent server hardware to turn up, can anyone provide feedback on this hardware?
If you don't mind it being in laptop form factor, the Samsung Chromebook 2 is really quite difficult to beat. I just got the 13" variant (had to order it from US, it's not available in other markets), and I am extremely pleased with it (4+4 cores, 4GB of RAM, 1080p screen).
Of other for factors, the top of the line SolidRun Cubox is really good.
I have RSEL running on both so getting CentOS working on them should be reasonably trivial.
Gordan
I do see that the conversation has moved on to ARMv8, but quickly to add to the 32-bit discussion...The organization that purchased the Calxeda assets reached out to me recently, and they have an enterprise-grade 32-bit product ready to ship. I can share their contact information if its desired (not sure of proper netiquette). -David
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 12:46:25 +0000 From: gordan@redsleeve.org To: arm-dev@centos.org Subject: Re: [Arm-dev] What's the best support hardware model ?
On 2015-12-01 12:36, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 01/12/15 12:32, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 2015-12-01 12:12, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 01/12/15 10:11, Andreas Reschke wrote:
Hi there, I want to replace some servers (SOHO, Mail-, web-, Infrastructure, X86_64, all with CentOS) with ARM-Servers. I've a /home-Server with Odroid XU4 (Cloudshell) with Fedora running fine.
Are there other ARM-Devices running CentOS easy?
there are -no- ARMv7 grade server hardware available, there are single board units, none of which are capable of running infrastructure services for any reasonable performance. the cubietruck seems the most 'capable' but still falls well short of reasonable performance.
There are however ARMv8 based server's that are available, the APM Mustang class of boards are well supported in CentOS Linux 7 and are perhaps the most widely available.
this does however take into consideration my own interpretation of what might be considered 'reasonable performance'.
ARMv7 server grade hardware does exist. It wasn't so long ago that I was helping the guys at Boston get RedSleeve 6 getting up and running on their Viridis servers:
I believe the viridis platform has been discontinued for a few years now,
Has it? I seem to recall getting RSEL6 running on it 4 years ago, and it has had a refresh since then. If it has been discontinued it must have been relatively recently.
And decent ARMv8 hardware is not actually that easily available, at least in UK. There's a lot of posturing and press releases but very little actual hardware to show for it. And if you can ever find it commercially it is disproportionately expensive for what it is.
Gordan _______________________________________________ Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
I'm interested in an enterprise grade 32bit arm product. Even if you don't send it to the list, I'd be interested in who it is.
As for netiquette, I think enough other arm board manufactures have been mentioned on this list. Listing one more isn't going to be considered "advertising".
Troy
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 12:28 PM, miniNodes Info info@mininodes.com wrote:
I do see that the conversation has moved on to ARMv8, but quickly to add to the 32-bit discussion...The organization that purchased the Calxeda assets reached out to me recently, and they have an enterprise-grade 32-bit product ready to ship. I can share their contact information if its desired (not sure of proper netiquette).
-David
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 12:46:25 +0000 From: gordan@redsleeve.org To: arm-dev@centos.org Subject: Re: [Arm-dev] What's the best support hardware model ?
On 2015-12-01 12:36, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 01/12/15 12:32, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 2015-12-01 12:12, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 01/12/15 10:11, Andreas Reschke wrote:
Hi there, I want to replace some servers (SOHO, Mail-, web-, Infrastructure, X86_64, all with CentOS) with ARM-Servers. I've a /home-Server with Odroid XU4 (Cloudshell) with Fedora running fine.
Are there other ARM-Devices running CentOS easy?
there are -no- ARMv7 grade server hardware available, there are single board units, none of which are capable of running infrastructure services for any reasonable performance. the cubietruck seems the most 'capable' but still falls well short of reasonable performance.
There are however ARMv8 based server's that are available, the APM Mustang class of boards are well supported in CentOS Linux 7 and are perhaps the most widely available.
this does however take into consideration my own interpretation of what might be considered 'reasonable performance'.
ARMv7 server grade hardware does exist. It wasn't so long ago that I was helping the guys at Boston get RedSleeve 6 getting up and running on their Viridis servers:
I believe the viridis platform has been discontinued for a few years now,
Has it? I seem to recall getting RSEL6 running on it 4 years ago, and it has had a refresh since then. If it has been discontinued it must have been relatively recently.
And decent ARMv8 hardware is not actually that easily available, at least in UK. There's a lot of posturing and press releases but very little actual hardware to show for it. And if you can ever find it commercially it is disproportionately expensive for what it is.
Gordan _______________________________________________ Arm-dev mailing list Arm-dev@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/arm-dev
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On 01/12/15 19:28, miniNodes Info wrote:
I do see that the conversation has moved on to ARMv8, but quickly to add to the 32-bit discussion...The organization that purchased the Calxeda assets reached out to me recently, and they have an enterprise-grade 32-bit product ready to ship. I can share their contact information if its desired (not sure of proper netiquette).
-David
Didn't even know that Calxeda had been acquired by another company (I thought they just went bankrupt) It would be interesting to consider if that can happen (some kind of armv7 1 or 2U server with some nodes and local storage)
- -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab
Per my conversation with them, it is a 2U form factor, 48 nodes, with 8GB RAM and 64GB SSD (I imagine hard drives could be swapped for larger local storage if desired).
To: arm-dev@centos.org From: arrfab@centos.org Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 21:24:05 +0100 Subject: Re: [Arm-dev] What's the best support hardware model ?
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On 01/12/15 19:28, miniNodes Info wrote:
I do see that the conversation has moved on to ARMv8, but quickly to add to the 32-bit discussion...The organization that purchased the Calxeda assets reached out to me recently, and they have an enterprise-grade 32-bit product ready to ship. I can share their contact information if its desired (not sure of proper netiquette).
-David
Didn't even know that Calxeda had been acquired by another company (I thought they just went bankrupt) It would be interesting to consider if that can happen (some kind of armv7 1 or 2U server with some nodes and local storage)
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