Hi Community,
I was learning RPM packaging in the past week and I recently got my hands on a Raspberry Pi 3 in the last CentOS Dojo here in Bangalore, India (thanks to the CentOS team).
So, I would like to help with porting some packages to this platform, and will be posting the issues I run into, here and on #centos-arm, which will be a lot :)
Thanks, Shubham Minglani
On 11/03/16 12:42, Shubham Minglani wrote:
Hi Community,
I was learning RPM packaging in the past week and I recently got my hands on a Raspberry Pi 3 in the last CentOS Dojo here in Bangalore, India (thanks to the CentOS team).
So, I would like to help with porting some packages to this platform, and will be posting the issues I run into, here and on #centos-arm, which will be a lot :)
great to see you active here.
Were you going to look at the docker packaging as a first cut ? and then maybe down through the stack related in the container space ?
Regards
On 11/03/16 15:02, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 11/03/16 12:42, Shubham Minglani wrote:
Hi Community,
I was learning RPM packaging in the past week and I recently got my hands on a Raspberry Pi 3 in the last CentOS Dojo here in Bangalore, India (thanks to the CentOS team).
So, I would like to help with porting some packages to this platform, and will be posting the issues I run into, here and on #centos-arm, which will be a lot :)
great to see you active here.
Were you going to look at the docker packaging as a first cut ? and then maybe down through the stack related in the container space ?
https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/AltArch/Arm32/builders
sometime soon you should work through this page as well, and get your builder access setup.
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 8:41 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org wrote:
https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup /AltArch/Arm32/builders https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/AltArch/Arm32/builders
sometime soon you should work through this page as well, and get your builder access setup.
I just created accounts on bugs.centos.org and accounts.centos.org, but on bugs.centos.org ---> "Buildsys" project, I could not find "community buildsys - arm32" category, however it does exist when I'm trying to create an issue. Could you help on how do I request access for the plague buildfarm?
Thanks, Shubham
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Shubham Minglani shubham@linux.com wrote:
I just created accounts on bugs.centos.org and accounts.centos.org, but on bugs.centos.org ---> "Buildsys" project, I could not find "community buildsys - arm32" category, however it does exist when I'm trying to create an issue. Could you help on how do I request access for the plague buildfarm?
I just created a bug report on bugs.centos.org to request access to the Plague farm for armv7 nodes, sorry for the previous email.
- Shubham
On 2016-03-11 15:02, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 11/03/16 12:42, Shubham Minglani wrote:
Hi Community,
I was learning RPM packaging in the past week and I recently got my hands on a Raspberry Pi 3 in the last CentOS Dojo here in Bangalore, India (thanks to the CentOS team).
So, I would like to help with porting some packages to this platform, and will be posting the issues I run into, here and on #centos-arm, which will be a lot :)
great to see you active here.
Were you going to look at the docker packaging as a first cut ? and then maybe down through the stack related in the container space ?
Is docker actually sanely workable on systemd? Last I checked most containerization solutions, including Docker, OpenVZ and VServer all recommend sticking with EL6 because systemd doesn't play nice with any of them, either on the host or in the guest.
Gordan
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On 11/03/16 15:14, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Is docker actually sanely workable on systemd?
thats a pretty strange question - if you are really asking if docker works in Linux, I can confirm that yes it does ( given that almost all mass deployed linux today runs with systemd ).
Regards,
- -- Karanbir Singh, Project Lead, The CentOS Project +44-207-0999389 | http://www.centos.org/ | twitter.com/CentOS GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc
On 2016-03-11 15:23, Karanbir Singh wrote:
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On 11/03/16 15:14, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Is docker actually sanely workable on systemd?
thats a pretty strange question - if you are really asking if docker works in Linux, I can confirm that yes it does ( given that almost all mass deployed linux today runs with systemd ).
I'm not asking if it works on Linux, I'm asking if it works on Linux distribution versions that use systemd. The two are not even similar.
And I don't think it is a strange question, especially in given articles like this:
http://lwn.net/Articles/676831/
Gordan
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On 11/03/16 15:27, Gordan Bobic wrote:
I'm not asking if it works on Linux, I'm asking if it works on Linux distribution versions that use systemd. The two are not even similar.
today, by and large that is the same question.
And I don't think it is a strange question, especially in given articles like this:
you should read it, yes :)
- -- Karanbir Singh, Project Lead, The CentOS Project +44-207-0999389 | http://www.centos.org/ | twitter.com/CentOS GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc
On 2016-03-11 15:30, Karanbir Singh wrote:
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On 11/03/16 15:27, Gordan Bobic wrote:
I'm not asking if it works on Linux, I'm asking if it works on Linux distribution versions that use systemd. The two are not even similar.
today, by and large that is the same question.
Apart from, for example, those many deployments of EL6 that aren't getting upgraded to EL7 specifically because of systemd. I have worked with a number of clients that match that description.
And I don't think it is a strange question, especially in given articles like this:
you should read it, yes :)
I did, in detail, and it is hardly a story of how docker and systemd work well together. The mentions of having to run a privileged container if systemd runs inside it, or a special version of systemd for containers doesn't paint that pretty a picture for standardisation, uniformity and clean inter-operability.
It seems like an awful lot of complication for the sake of systemd apologism.
Gordan
On 11/03/16 15:37, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 2016-03-11 15:30, Karanbir Singh wrote:
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On 11/03/16 15:27, Gordan Bobic wrote:
I'm not asking if it works on Linux, I'm asking if it works on Linux distribution versions that use systemd. The two are not even similar.
today, by and large that is the same question.
Apart from, for example, those many deployments of EL6 that aren't getting upgraded to EL7 specifically because of systemd. I have worked with a number of clients that match that description.
on the wider picture, I agree. but in the docker case - there isnt much happening with golang and/or container ecosystem in there.
And I don't think it is a strange question, especially in given articles like this:
you should read it, yes :)
I did, in detail, and it is hardly a story of how docker and systemd work well together. The mentions of having to run a privileged container if systemd runs inside it, or a special version of systemd for containers doesn't paint that pretty a picture for standardisation, uniformity and clean inter-operability.
It seems like an awful lot of complication for the sake of systemd apologism.
that article is mostly around the working process, not the execution piece - docker folks feel there are different ways to achieve the same goals that some of the systemd folks feel are trivial with their bits.
the conversations are not around what to do, its about howto execute on them.
On 2016-03-11 15:58, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 11/03/16 15:37, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 2016-03-11 15:30, Karanbir Singh wrote:
And I don't think it is a strange question, especially in given articles like this:
you should read it, yes :)
I did, in detail, and it is hardly a story of how docker and systemd work well together. The mentions of having to run a privileged container if systemd runs inside it, or a special version of systemd for containers doesn't paint that pretty a picture for standardisation, uniformity and clean inter-operability.
It seems like an awful lot of complication for the sake of systemd apologism.
that article is mostly around the working process, not the execution piece - docker folks feel there are different ways to achieve the same goals that some of the systemd folks feel are trivial with their bits.
the conversations are not around what to do, its about howto execute on them.
I get that. But it doesn't take away from the fact that on EL6 with upstart it all "just works" as is.
Gordan
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Gordan Bobic gordan@redsleeve.org wrote:
On 2016-03-11 15:02, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 11/03/16 12:42, Shubham Minglani wrote:
Hi Community,
I was learning RPM packaging in the past week and I recently got my hands on a Raspberry Pi 3 in the last CentOS Dojo here in Bangalore, India (thanks to the CentOS team).
So, I would like to help with porting some packages to this platform, and will be posting the issues I run into, here and on #centos-arm, which will be a lot :)
great to see you active here.
Were you going to look at the docker packaging as a first cut ? and then maybe down through the stack related in the container space ?
Is docker actually sanely workable on systemd?
OK, so nobody answered the original question.
Does docker work on a systemd based system? Yes, quite well
Does docker work on RHEL7 and it's clones? Yes, quite well
Does docker work on RHEL7 clones of alt architecture (armv7)? Yes. The original problems weren't with systemd, they were with golang. Once the golang issues were resolved, docker worked.
Troy
On 11/03/16 22:02, Troy Dawson wrote:
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Gordan Bobic <gordan@redsleeve.org mailto:gordan@redsleeve.org> wrote:
On 2016-03-11 15:02, Karanbir Singh wrote: On 11/03/16 12:42, Shubham Minglani wrote: Hi Community, I was learning RPM packaging in the past week and I recently got my hands on a Raspberry Pi 3 in the last CentOS Dojo here in Bangalore, India (thanks to the CentOS team). So, I would like to help with porting some packages to this platform, and will be posting the issues I run into, here and on #centos-arm, which will be a lot :) great to see you active here. Were you going to look at the docker packaging as a first cut ? and then maybe down through the stack related in the container space ? Is docker actually sanely workable on systemd?OK, so nobody answered the original question.
Does docker work on a systemd based system? Yes, quite well
Does docker work on RHEL7 and it's clones? Yes, quite well
Does docker work on RHEL7 clones of alt architecture (armv7)? Yes. The original problems weren't with systemd, they were with golang. Once the golang issues were resolved, docker worked.
Awesome, thank you for answering my original question. :)
Now I have to figure out how to make armv5tel docker containers that I can run on aarch64 with CentOS 7.
Gordan
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