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Re: [CentOS] Corporate support for CentOS
by Ian Murray 27 Mar '11

27 Mar '11

> > What the CentOS project would be interested in (from a corporate > provider) would be to hire people and allow them to do CentOS related > things. > > We are not interested in being paid in addition to our current work, but > making taking care of CentOS our only work. > > There are many things other than building packages that have to be > maintained for making CentOS go. These include: > > 1. We have dozens (more than 100) servers that need to be maintained in > tens of countries all world. These machines need to be updated and > managed, including monitoring and taking corrective action for any > services that go down. > > 2. We have to maintain lists of update mirrors, rsync mirrors, DVD > mirrors and verify that the "Dynamic DNS list" for all these machines > stay in sync when mirrors drop out or can be added back. > > 3. Manage the CentOS DNS services, the CentOS mail services, the > mailing lists, the IRC Channels, and the main website. > > 4. We have to write/configure/change software to ensure our mirrors are > up-to-date and control the release of updates. Our update system gives > out GEO-IP relevant targets for download of ISOs and updates. > > 5. We have to research/answer bugs and maintain the bugs.centos.org > website. > > There are many things that we could do if CentOS was our only > responsibility. > > The cost to a corporate entity would be to hire one or more developers > full time and designate them to working only on the project. If someone > were willing to do that, we would be willing to listen. Right, so rather than money for CentOS to hire its own employees, you'd be looking for corporate sponsor to donate their employee time, i.e. full time person/people. I was more thinking of the former, but I think that was a long shot at best. Oh well hopefully someone might come forward.

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Re: [CentOS] Corporate support for CentOS
by Ian Murray 27 Mar '11

27 Mar '11

>There have been a number of recent conversations on the developer list and this list about CentOS. My initial thought was why not have CentOS and SL merge. Since they have different goals I can understand the reason not to. So my next question is, has no corporate entity offered to sponsor full time people to work on CentOS? It seems like a lot of companies use CentOS for various things. I can't believe no one is willing to help speed development by paying for people to build full time. Has this subject come up before? > As far as I can tell, it is as simple as this:- The volunteers that create CentOS like things the way it is and it isn't likely to change. We seen it said a number of times, if we don't like it then go somewhere else. I suggest there might be room for another rebuild project that is open to commercially sponsored, i.e. somewhere else. This would n't be a 'rival' because its aims would be different. I'll be honest though, I don't realistically see enough money coming in to put people full-time onto it, though, when you consider market rate for the skills required.

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updating without rebooting
by Fajar Priyanto 27 Mar '11

27 Mar '11

Hi all, I'm curious. If I do yum update (which include kernel update) but don't reboot. Is it OK? I mean apart of the kernel, other things like services, we don't have to reboot if we don't have the chance to do it (postponing to some other date), right? Thank you.

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My new server
by Timothy Murphy 27 Mar '11

27 Mar '11

I bought a very cheap server yesterday - an HP ProLiant micro server for 160 euro (280 euro with 120 cashback, for some reason). But I was surprised when I opened the box to find it didn't come with keyboard or mouse, and doesn't have the old keyboard/mouse sockets, but requires USB versions. Is that the norm nowadays? Is it possible to convert the old keyboard/mouse plugs? Also there is no CD drive. But there are extensive instructions (on a CD!) about how to instal RHEL-5.5. I'm not complaining, just surprised. I got it as a fall-back for my aging server. The ProLiant is incredibly quiet, at least by comparison. One last thing - there is only one ethernet socket. This surprised me a little, as I can't see how it can be used as a server, without adding a second ethernet input? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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Corporate support for CentOS
by Gary Scarborough 26 Mar '11

26 Mar '11

There have been a number of recent conversations on the developer list and this list about CentOS. My initial thought was why not have CentOS and SL merge. Since they have different goals I can understand the reason not to. So my next question is, has no corporate entity offered to sponsor full time people to work on CentOS? It seems like a lot of companies use CentOS for various things. I can't believe no one is willing to help speed development by paying for people to build full time. Has this subject come up before?

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Re: [CentOS] My new server
by Peter Larsen 26 Mar '11

26 Mar '11

You get what you pay for. Yes ps/2 plugs are a thing of the past. Servers have for the last 5 or so years been usb only. Usually with a usb in the front as well as in the back. There are usb/ps2 converters but usb/mouse is very cheap. Your adapter would most likely cost the same or more. Lack of cd drive - sounds like you bought too cheap if you need that. Alternatively, pxe boot and install that way. One nic is also quite common. It depends on what you need the server to do. Regards Peter Larsen Timothy Murphy <gayleard(a)eircom.net> wrote: >I bought a very cheap server yesterday - >an HP ProLiant micro server for 160 euro >(280 euro with 120 cashback, for some reason). > >But I was surprised when I opened the box >to find it didn't come with keyboard or mouse, >and doesn't have the old keyboard/mouse sockets, >but requires USB versions. >Is that the norm nowadays? >Is it possible to convert the old keyboard/mouse plugs? > >Also there is no CD drive. >But there are extensive instructions (on a CD!) >about how to instal RHEL-5.5. > >I'm not complaining, just surprised. >I got it as a fall-back for my aging server. >The ProLiant is incredibly quiet, at least by comparison. > >One last thing - there is only one ethernet socket. >This surprised me a little, >as I can't see how it can be used as a server, >without adding a second ethernet input? > >-- >Timothy Murphy >e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net >tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 >s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland > >_______________________________________________ >CentOS mailing list >CentOS(a)centos.org >http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

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The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities
by Nico Kadel-Garcia 26 Mar '11

26 Mar '11

There are significant components of the upstream 5.6 release which are stuck behind the CentOS 5.6 release process, but are now incorporated in EPEL 5 components. In particular, the "php53" package is now necessary for the "drupal6" EPEL components, due to the long out of date PHP 5.1 in the default upstream vendor's codebase. I see that some of these components are available in the "testing" repository at http://dev.centos.org/centos/5/CentOS-Testing.repo. But this isn't published with centos-release. fasttrack is. Would it be reasonable to push these "testing" components over to "fasttrack"? Given our "upstream vendor's" policy of making all the updates available to all the previous releases in their main "channels", I'm not sure there's any reason not to present them, at least to the fasttrack" channel, and migrate them from "fasttrack" to "updates" as necessary. Other components for such fasttrack publication might include bind97, which some CentOS users have been asking for.

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Locked myself out of MySQL
by Todd Cary 26 Mar '11

26 Mar '11

Darn! I must have either made a typo or my use of a ";" in the MySQL root password so now I am locked out. Is there a work around or do I have to uninstall MySQL and reinstall? Todd -- Ariste Software Petaluma, CA 94952 http://www.aristesoftware.com

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{OT] Re: Installing IMA (Integrity Measurement Architecture) on CentOS 5.5
by Rajagopal Swaminathan 26 Mar '11

26 Mar '11

Greetings, On 3/24/11, Akemi Yagi <amyagi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I should note, however, that they are not for production use. > > Akemi Thanks Akemi very much for your always relevant and brilliant works. </rant> As an Indian, where "veda" repository of knowledge originated, I have always looked at every member of this list as a repository of knowledge. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedas I am presuming you are of Japanese origin. together India and Japan have had a very, very long shared history indeed : http://www.ece.lsu.edu/kak/VedicJapan.pdf I stand in awe in front of the giant of the members fo this list. i am almost about to rollover to the so-called "golden" age of 50, (the origin of these jubilees of which I am unaware of) My respectful namo namaH (in ITRANS encoding) to all the members. I am sure you have heard of Hanuman from Ramayana the best grammarian known? </rant> Having said that, I have this troubling thought for last decade: What exactly is high availability: is it 24/7 power on time? or is ti "when needed". Please not it am not talking about the maybe arrogant "on demand" attitude of a human. I have been a member of this, linux-cluster, and other lists for alomst half a decade. I have managed a two node Hearbeat/DRBD setup for about 2 years which was transformed into a two-node (which became a three) node RHCS cluster at least for about two Quarters. This under extreme circumstances in India like 4 hours of (Electrical Power Load Shedding) outage every day with no fencing device. I can claim I at least tried that mating dance with those two beasts and (horror of horror) the breeding ground of PHB (vnbrims.org) with about 200 PHB without any significant assistance. I never understood the term "Hig Availability" : does it mean available as in "soliciting" ? What exactly those lusers want? and what exactly we self declared high tech droids / engineers seek? What exactly is "production" use? (I know DEV, UAT, blah, bla, tla etc been there done that and I don't have the T shirt - nobody gave me one) Always with warm regards only, Rajagopal

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Error 2002 with MySQL on a new Centos 5.5 installation
by Todd Cary 26 Mar '11

26 Mar '11

With my new Centos installation, I get the following error when I type in # mysql ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) I have Googled the error, but the results do not appear to be helpful Todd -- Ariste Software Petaluma, CA 94952 http://www.aristesoftware.com

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