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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag
by Radu-Cristian FOTESCU 01 Jul '09

01 Jul '09

> So we have centosplus and extras which are the repos with > "access denied" for packages inclusion. Dag's rpmforge > which is so huge with a lot of dependencies not suitable > for "testing/bleeding edge/alternative" packages. So > what's the suitable repo? That's why people are going to > run own repos.... :o( I do it myself. We even have centos.karan.org, with all the packages for 5 in... "testing", since 2007. Oh boy. Too many repos, working or not, with packages frozen in testing or not, and this is exactly why I needed my tiny repo to partially "fix" the RPMforge<->EPEL breakage with regards to the exact RF packages I am interested in, and also to add packages that couldn't go into EPEL (like a newer GIMP that would not require any other library update), etc. So no, I don't have a problem with Dag, as someone suggested. I only find partially-broken repos "not Zen" (bad karma, if you wish), and it's even worse when their SRPMs can't build. But I *do* have a problem with RPM Fusion and Karanbir's repo, because they keep packages in "testing" even if nothing happens (they could stay there until 2014, right?). RPMRepo is the best proof that collaboration is close to impossible. And ElRepo is the best proof that other small repos could arise, and they have a reason to exist. But all this is on the "expenses" (not pecuniary, but *nervous*) of the end user, who will get confused and who might also experience system breakage. (No, priorities don't fix everything that easily.) Cheers, R-C __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/

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Re: [CentOS] How to change Disk sequence on DELL R900 CENTOS 5.3?
by mcclnx mcc 01 Jul '09

01 Jul '09

Thank you for answer. "Label" just a way to work around. It is not real solution. I know "udev" can make it work, but "udev" is too complext for me to understand. --- 09/6/30 (二)，James A. Peltier <jpeltier(a)fas.sfu.ca> 寫道： > 寄件者: James A. Peltier <jpeltier(a)fas.sfu.ca> > 主旨: Re: [CentOS] How to change Disk sequence on DELL R900 CENTOS 5.3? > 收件者: "CentOS mailing list" <centos(a)centos.org> > 日期: 2009年6月30日,二,下午6:33 > On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, Joseph L. Casale > wrote: > > >> how to change sequence back? > > > > Rather than chase that never ending loop, maybe now is > the time > > to look into an fstab populated by UUID. > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS mailing list > > CentOS(a)centos.org > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > > Or just label the disks and mount by disk label. > > -- > James A. Peltier > Systems Analyst (FASNet), VIVARIUM Technical Director > HPC Coordinator > Simon Fraser University - Burnaby Campus > Phone : 778-782-6573 > Fax : 778-782-3045 > E-Mail : jpeltier(a)sfu.ca > Website : http://www.fas.sfu.ca | http://vivarium.cs.sfu.ca > http://blogs.sfu.ca/people/jpeltier > MSN : subatomic_spam(a)hotmail.com > > The point of the HPC scheduler is to > keep everyone equally unhappy. > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS(a)centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ 付費才容量無上限？Yahoo!奇摩電子信箱2.0免費給你，信件永遠不必刪！ http://tw.mg0.mail.yahoo.com/dc/landing

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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag
by Radu-Cristian FOTESCU 01 Jul '09

01 Jul '09

> Where did you see the QA requirements for the packages > in c.k.o ? I didn't. But since you say that there is a reason for them to be in "testing", I then assumed the reason was "testing". But then, the activity usually called "testing" is part of a process usually called Quality Assurance. But hey, maybe I am way to stupid to match your geniality! > Also, why are you ignoring what has already > been said to you about the repo and the target > audience its aimed at ? *What* exactly has been said and by whom? I only saw you inferring what it's *not* aimed at: people who don't like things in "testing". As I said, and as everyone on this list knows: KB is not a person to talk with. Usually, KB would throw offensive assertion to people. No matter what KB would say, and no matter how important is KB to the CentOS project, a quick search through the centos ML archives would show that KB is not someone easy to deal with. Probably I should stop posting to this list. I only mentioned KB's repo in the context of packages staying in "testing" for years. R-C __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer® 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/

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wan hdlc_ppp and IPv6
by Bob Beers 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

Hi list, I can successfully build the driver modules; hdlc, dlci, syncppp, and lmc from the 2.6.18-128.1.14 kernel source rpm, and have managed to create a 'wan kmod' rpm. It all works fine for IPv4, but now I need IPv6 for ppp connections, which doesn't work for me. I think I'll need to back port Krzysztof Halasa's 'ppp for generic hdlc' patches to the 2.6.18-128.1.14.el5 kernel sources. Has anyone worked on this? I have tried simply overwriting the drivers/net/wan directory with corresponding directory from more recent (2.6.25.20, 2.6.30) vanilla kernel source, but I get errors: CC [M] drivers/net/wan/hdlc.o drivers/net/wan/hdlc.c:39:31: error: net/net_namespace.h: No such file or directory drivers/net/wan/hdlc.c: In function ‘hdlc_rcv’: drivers/net/wan/hdlc.c:69: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type drivers/net/wan/hdlc.c:71: error: ‘struct net_device’ has no member named ‘nd_net’ drivers/net/wan/hdlc.c:71: error: ‘init_net’ undeclared (first use in this function) drivers/net/wan/hdlc.c:71: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once drivers/net/wan/hdlc.c:71: error: for each function it appears in.) drivers/net/wan/hdlc.c:76: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type drivers/net/wan/hdlc.c:77: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type drivers/net/wan/hdlc.c: In function ‘hdlc_proto_start’: drivers/net/wan/hdlc.c:85: error: invalid type argument of ‘->’ ... and so on. Where is the best starting point for getting these changes back-ported. I guess I need post-'ppp for generic hdlc' but pre-'net-namespace'. Is this possible? Thanks for any help/advice. -- -Bob

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CentOS 5.3 / OpenLDAP / back_perl
by Tim Gustafson 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

Hi, I was wondering if there is any momentum to get OpenLDAP's back_perl feature installed into the CentOS Yum repository. If this isn't the right mailing list for such a request, could someone point me in the correct direction? Thanks! Tim Gustafson Baskin School of Engineering UC Santa Cruz tjg(a)soe.ucsc.edu 831-459-5354

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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag
by Radu-Cristian FOTESCU 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

> yes, perhaps the english language is alien to you - the > word 'testing' means something, there is a reason why > those packages are there in 'testing' - people who > dont know what they are doing are recommended to > NOT use them. Karanbir, I've always 'appreciated' you being such a 'nice' person and giving so 'detailed insights' on this list, that I'm so tempted to give a politically-incorrect reply... Otherwise, I am using CentOS *despite* you being a member of the team. (Not that anyone would care.) OTOH, it's such an accomplishment to have *all* the packages in "testing" since 2007 and none of them passing the QA requirements... R-C __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 52, Issue 13
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce(a)centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request(a)centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner(a)centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CEBA-2009:1133 CentOS 5 i386 kernel Update (Karanbir Singh) 2. CEBA-2009:1133 CentOS 5 x86_64 kernel Update (Karanbir Singh) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:08:31 +0000 From: Karanbir Singh <kbsingh(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2009:1133 CentOS 5 i386 kernel Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20090630150831.GA2275(a)tantra.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2009:1133 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2009-1133.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: 74757a235fe8d3f13251204b870137d6 kernel-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.i686.rpm 2824473a0757040cf38dd4b9267d2533 kernel-debug-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.i686.rpm 574bbbfd8e71050030e06f0a19d43ea5 kernel-debug-devel-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.i686.rpm 2f9e5fbf7a54f30752709c53bae0bff0 kernel-devel-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.i686.rpm fa9b81fa95b62a281dc5d5a2a5ff1323 kernel-doc-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.noarch.rpm a5c8caf879bed9fb53d59bb5257c8d7c kernel-headers-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.i386.rpm 6bc06713f58b3c3c1a98612b24a16a9b kernel-PAE-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.i686.rpm a0a2bd2a14f7e93cf1049e5c451fae5e kernel-PAE-devel-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.i686.rpm 71b227106dd44bb6abfe5993af653442 kernel-xen-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.i686.rpm 4ed28b0d65a754f4379aa07facf00d92 kernel-xen-devel-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.i686.rpm Source: 74a14ed1df21b2b039c9f49e8ff25023 kernel-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.src.rpm -- Karanbir Singh CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: z00dax, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:08:32 +0000 From: Karanbir Singh <kbsingh(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2009:1133 CentOS 5 x86_64 kernel Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20090630150832.GA2290(a)tantra.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2009:1133 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2009-1133.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: fe9be7aabc871d26ad8cdedd47df01f3 kernel-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.x86_64.rpm db148cb2a953679cbe7ac6af1b46bf45 kernel-debug-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.x86_64.rpm 122d1913dcdcdc8ea24b40a9a3a8d128 kernel-debug-devel-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.x86_64.rpm dd017dcee8bcfb6e454779619db46907 kernel-devel-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.x86_64.rpm a22b4103b441a7c122205b07e2681ee1 kernel-doc-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.noarch.rpm 5570c187ca4206d58a6ce15162b23873 kernel-headers-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.x86_64.rpm 7993d19667fe92b1799157d1c7b1b000 kernel-xen-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.x86_64.rpm 5ab996bb8244ffc1284d39d4f9ab3da2 kernel-xen-devel-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.x86_64.rpm Source: 74a14ed1df21b2b039c9f49e8ff25023 kernel-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5.src.rpm -- Karanbir Singh CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: z00dax, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce End of CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 52, Issue 13 ***********************************************

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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options
by Ray Leventhal 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

Sorin Srbu wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: centos-bounces(a)centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On >> > Behalf > >> Of Lucian(a)lastdot.org >> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:24 AM >> To: CentOS mailing list >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options >> >> jalbum is a hog with large collections.. performance must be 5-6x less >> than that of picasa on my computer (amd athlon x2, 1 gb ram, sata >> drive, centos 5 32bit, around 8000 hires pictures).. >> > > That bad?? Guess my Amd Duron/750 and 384MB ram is a no-go then... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS(a)centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > I've been rather happy with Jalbum, mostly because of the wide range of capabilities. By default, it creates the album on your system...you can upload to their servers or your own, at your discretion. While picassa is certainly an answer, and one I use on occassion, I'm far happier using my own server(s) or hosting locally on my workstaion than relying solely on google's cloud (rock solid though it is...no negative connotation about google intended). You also get what you want out of it...if it's a 'hog', consider if you're linking from thumbs to mid-size display and from *that* to original hi-res. That's my basic setup and I haven't had a problem with resources on my local workstation (1gb ram, 2,4mhz intel, 0.5TB drive, albums of 5K pictures or more, centos 5.3 32bit) or on my servers. YMMV, -R

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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag
by Radu-Cristian FOTESCU 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

> He wants me to do some things for him for free > (unfortunately I am a freelancer and not a millionaire). Not for *me*!!! It's only a matter of perception. I normally don't like when a SRPM doesn't build, and I believe that until it's fixed, it should either be removed (alongside with the corresponing RPMs), or be moved to a "testing" section. That's all. But this also means that helping to fix some issues in such a huge repo is frightening, and as long as it won't fix the RF<->EPEL incompatibility, I won't see the motivation! As Dag noted, those 4 newer libs in EPEL that break VLC and MPlayer (so my repo ugly fixes the issue for *me* and for whoever likes to use those repos the way *I* do it) are not an easy issue: should anyone want to rebuild everything in RPMforge that depends on them, most likely some packages wouldn't build at all! So: RF can't be "fixed", EPEL can't be "fixed". To avoid the annoyance of protecting packages and whatnot, I've put in *my* repo Dag's older libs with versions higher than whatever is now in EPEL, so that EPEL won't break Dag's VLC and MPlayer. Oh, maybe this breaks some other multimedia apps from EPEL, but I am not using EPEL for multimedia, so I don't care. Maybe I am stuck with my ideas, and maybe I should be thinking "outside of the box". OK, but I also know that "outside of the box be dragons", so I just won't go outside of the box ;-) R-C __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/

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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag
by Radu-Cristian FOTESCU 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

> Firefox was better than Mozilla. Nay. Only Firefox 0.9 was better than Mozilla. Later on, bloatware won. > It's definitely worth noting that, Epiphany & > Firefox popped up so quickly because they built on > Mozilla's rendering, etc. Yes, it's easier to add bloatware on a solid open-sourced base... > Things get pushed in the kernel, Xorg, etc. for a good > reason, even if we fail to see it. Hopefully, there is Someone up there who sees it. Then He will come for a second time to bring salvation to us. Hopefully, there is no HAL, no UDEV, no PulseAudio in either heaven or hell. > Well, you just said a few lines up that enough maintainers > are proven to keep up even 3x this size. Not to > mention the (PLD, I think) examples someone else brought > in the thread. I can't tell of PLD, as I have never used it. Next time someone will tell of Arch etc. etc. Not the right approach IMHO. Cheers, R-C __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/

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