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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag
by Radu-Cristian FOTESCU 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

> How many employees does Canonical have? AFAIK, it all > started with a group of 30 odd Debian developers. Yes, but when they started, they mainly rebuilt the upstream (Debian) packages, right? > Compare this with the russian ALT Linux distribution: > 150 paid full time developers only to maintain the distro. I'm not buying this number. It's too big. Compare to Pardus, which also employs a number of paid developers, it's more popular than ALT, and it still has less paid devs. But maybe they are employing 150, what do I know... > As for Red Hat, according to recent news, they're moving > from 2.000 to approximately 2.800 employees. And they still refuse to add even 10 or 20 packages to EL, even as a "technology preview" (which is unsupported, AFAIR). Cheers, R-C __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer® 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/

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change gnome back to default settings
by Jerry Geis 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

Some how I have changed something such that the command line: gconftool-2 -t string --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename /usr/share/backgrounds/images/other.jpg does not change my background any longer. Has someone come across this before? How can I change gnome back to ALL default settings? Jerry

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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag
by Radu-Cristian FOTESCU 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

> I am still waiting for it. I am willing to give you commit > access to fix all the things that irritate you. I offered > the same to others. Actually, how do we know what builds and validates in RF and what doesn't? You should rather trigger a global SRPMS rebuild and... whatever fails to build should go to /dev/null! Take the example of RF's Comix package. I dunno how have you built the RPM, because the SRPM won't build no matter what I tried! (I even suspected that someone has built Comix on a Fedora box, and since the binary seemed to work on CentOS/EL too...) In my view, a repo should be consistent, and its own SRPMS should only need the official EL clone repo to build, or whatever is agreed to be a required dependency (e.g. Fusion declaratively requires EPEL, and even my tiny repo requires or *might* require EPEL for *some* dependencies). If a SRPMS builds under CentOS 5.0 and it doesn't under 5.3, then this package is broekn. I am sorry to decline your offer: I don't need access to a 8,000-package repo, for later I could be accused of some breakage I might have not caused. Unless RF starts from zero (that is, by tossing whatever does not build), I am not interested: better not touch it. Otherwise, everyone is free to rebuild from: http://odiecolon.lastdot.org/el5/SRPMS/ If it doesn't work... c'est la vie. This is the first time in my life that I've built RPMs, so... > It was maintained by matthias in the past, and he > left. I could remove the packages, but that would not > help. Oh yes, it would. Instead of many broken packages, better fewer, but self-containing/self-consistent. > > Should the Fedora people be insensitive, what prevents > > you from just "suck in" the newer libdvdread, libdvdnav, > > libcaca > > and lzo from EPEL and just rebuild RF's VLC and MPlayer? > > I recommend you to go and try do it and see how much else > depends on these and what no longer builds because of it > and how much time you end up spending for something that > doesn't do more than before eventually if you make it work. This is the problem with a 8,000-package repo. Hey, even RHEL has only 2,400 or whatever they have! > Should I rebuild it just because EPEL upgraded their > libraries ? Will EPEL fix the compatibility with the > clamav package, a conflict they introduced ? That's a delicate question. > RPMforge has about 20 to 30 new commits every week, and we > do update lots of packages regularly. The hard ones we may > not do unless there is a compelling reason and it still > compiles against older distributions. Umm... so let me get it straight (yes, I can be very mean): you *update* or *add* new packages instead of fixing the broken ones? Isn't this approach more like... Ubuntu's? > An automated buildsystem that would rebuild all dependencies > would be great, I don't have it though. Moi non plus. > We have those 400 rock solid packages, even more than that. > I'd say less than 5% are in a bad shape. And audacious is > probaby one of the more visible ones. But again, why do > you expect me to fix them, when you have a need for it ? Because a repo should be consistent. It should be able to rebuild from its own SRPMS. Whatever doesn't fit the picture should go to /dev/null. > What is the difference between a package that cannot be > installed, and a package that is not available ? The same as the difference between "honey, I wanted to cheat on you, but I couldn't find anyone willing to fsck with me" and "honey, this temptation never existed for me"! It's peace of mind. "Now, let's see if this package is broken or not.... oh, it's not broken." But seriously, it's not 5%. If a SRPM doesn't build, then it's broken. This way you could very well have 20% of breakage, in real terms. You know, in the F/LOSS world the idea is that the sources be available *and* that they would build. > Everyone expects it to be fixed. Just delete the packages that don't rebuild. Then, maybe someone will get involved. > Fine, but then stop demanding something to be fixed, > because you're talking about the little free time I > have. Send me a fix, or even better offer to fix it > yourself. Whatever I could fix and build and I was interested in, would normally get into my tiny repo. SRPMs available. > Then do something about it. Instead of a consumer (and > complainer), become a producer (and contributor). VLC and MPlayer have so many dependencies, that my nerves just broke. Really. I wanted to build them, but then... > And the believe that one repo will rule them all (which > is what Fedora and EPEL wants you to believe) is just > debunked by yourself above :-) Well, I don't have such a strong belief in any repo, the same way I have zero belief in God. > let my users down because there is no real upgrade path > (the fact that you > for some reason need RPMforge is the proof). That's cute. Indeed, I *need* RF, despite all the "defamatory" howto/disclaimer on how I use my repo with EPEL and only enable RF for a few things, etc. > But don't expect me (or dries, christoph, fabian, ...) to > fix it because that simply *does* *not* *scale*. 7,600 packages is really too much for a couple of people to maintain. Unless it's scaled *down*... 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filesize limitation in CentOS or exim?
by Helmut Drodofsky 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

Hallo, today I had a surprising situation. Exim stopped. It's a German centos 5.3 64 Bit installation so the messages are partial in German. Then I tried a restart: [root@centos ~]# service exim restart exim beenden: [FEHLGESCHLAGEN] exim starten: /bin/bash: line 1: 6596 Die maximale Dateigröße ist überschritten /usr/sbin/exim -bd -q30m [FEHLGESCHLAGEN] Reducing the size of /var/log/exim/main.log has solved the Problem. I presume it is a message of CentOS, not from exim. Is this correct? I think, max filesize in CentOS is 2 TB? See http://www.centos.org/product.html in "Filesystem". Where can I change it? Best regards Helmut

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logical volume over NFS permissions problem
by Tomas Ruprich 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

Hi all, i've problem with mounting logical volumes over NFS. On NFS server, i have following logical volume [root@nfs_server ~]# lvdisplay --- Logical volume --- LV Name /dev/escience/vv_25 VGnfs_servernfs_servernfs_servernfs_servernfs_server escience LV UUID iMhNq7-iC7L-VTDO-Xcwv-a6yv-sEAD-EZWASV LV Write Access read/write LV Status available # open 0 LV Size 5.00 GB Current LE 1280 Segments 1 Allocation inherit Read ahead sectors auto - currently set to 256 Block device 253:2 This logical volume is mounted on NFS server, the group information is taken from LDAP server. [root@nfs_server ~]# mount | grep vv_25 /dev/mapper/escience-vv_25 on /export/escience/vv_25 type ext3 (rw) [root@nfs_server ~]# ls -ld /export/escience/vv_25 drwxrwx--- 3 root vv153 4096 Jun 24 16:04 /export/escience/vv_25 But when i mount /export/escience on the nfs client, i'm missing all the permissions and ownership informations: [root@client ~]# mount.nfs nfs_server:/export/escience/ /mnt/escience [root@client ~]# ls -ld /mnt/escience/vv_25 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-06-24 16:04 vv_25 The setting of NFS exports is following: [root@nfs_server ~]# cat /etc/exports /export/escience client(rw,sync,no_root_squash) [root@nfs_server ~]# exportfs -v /export/escience client(rw,wdelay,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check,anonuid=65534,anongid=65534) Server is running latest CentOS 5.3 [root@nfs_server ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release CentOS release 5.3 (Final) [root@nfs_server ~]# uname -a Linux nfs_server 2.6.18-128.1.14.el5 #1 SMP Wed Jun 17 06:38:05 EDT 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux No denials from selinux, client's IP is completely opened on firewall. Is there some possibility to debug the NFS mount process? I don't see nothing more then verbose mode in man, which doesn't provide much informations :( Or is it some configuration issue? thanks for help, Tomáš Ruprich <ruprich(a)uikt.mendelu.cz> DCD IICT MUAF Brno <www.mendelu.cz, is.mendelu.cz> tomyk(a)jabber.cz

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commercial support page
by Geoff Galitz 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

So we had that nice long thread about the commercial support page a week ago. There were a few recommendations on changes to the page. What next? It is not clear to me if any recommendations were accepted or are being debated internally or if this fizzled out somehow. Is there any process to this kind of thing other than a few developers agreeing it a good thing and then just doing it? I'm not complaining, but I am genuinely curious. --------------------------------- Geoff Galitz Blankenheim NRW, Germany http://www.galitz.org/ http://german-way.com/blog/

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squirrelmail-1.4.8-5.el4_8.5.src.rpm not updated for Centos4
by security 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

Hello All, Could someone check if the last squirrelmail rpm is available on Centos4 ? I check in a Centos4 server, but i find this: [root@linuxmail2 opt]# rpm -qi squirrelmail Name : squirrelmail Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 1.4.8 Vendor: CentOS Release : 5.el4.centos.3 Build Date: sam 24 jan 2009 02:07:58 RET Install Date: mar 27 jan 2009 12:39:39 RET Build Host: builder16.centos.org Group : Applications/Internet Source RPM: squirrelmail-1.4.8-5.el4.centos.3.src.rpm Size : 14394807 License: GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, sam 24 jan 2009 10:17:47 RET, Key ID a53d0bab443e1821 URL : http://www.squirrelmail.org/ Summary : client de courrier électronique SquirrelMail ok, the last squirrelmail rpm for RHEL4 was available in may 2009 (squirrelmail-1.4.8-5.el4_8.5.src.rpm) see https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-1066.html for details. I check on http://centos.arcticnetwork.ca/4.7/updates/i386/RPMS/ but there is no trace of the last squirrelmail package. Maybe there is a rsync problem somewhere??? Best Regards, js.

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php5 and sqlite
by Paul Bijnens 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

Is there any reason (besides upstream does it) to compile php5 with --without-sqlite in CentOS5 ? Would it conflict with the sqlite that yum needs? Is there a repo (centosplus, rpmforge...) having a php5 and sqlite enabled ? I can only find older mails that seem to imply it does not harm to include sqlite (and some which seem to imply the contrary as well, but without any facts) but I can find only older packages for CentOS 4 that have php and sqlite. -- Paul Bijnens, Xplanation Technology Services Tel +32 16 397.525 Interleuvenlaan 86, B-3001 Leuven, BELGIUM Fax +32 16 397.552 *********************************************************************** * I think I've got the hang of it now: exit, ^D, ^C, ^\, ^Z, ^Q, ^^, * * quit, ZZ, :q, :q!, M-Z, ^X^C, logoff, logout, close, bye, /bye, ~., * * stop, end, ^]c, +++ ATH, disconnect, halt, abort, hangup, KJOB, * * ^X^X, :D::D, kill -9 1, kill -1 $$, shutdown, init 0, Alt-F4, * * Alt-f-e, Ctrl-Alt-Del, Alt-SysRq-reisub, Stop-A, AltGr-NumLock, ... * * ... "Are you sure?" ... YES ... Phew ... I'm out * ***********************************************************************

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Re: [CentOS] [DRBD-user] Unexplained reboots in DRBD82 + OCFS2 setup
by Kris Buytaert 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 11:42 +0200, Kris Buytaert wrote: > > Use a serial console, attach that to some "monitoring" host. > > (you can useUSB-to-Serial, they are cheap and work), and log > > on that one. You'll get the last messages from there. > > > I indeed had hoped to see some output on on the serial console when the > reboots happened .. but the best I got so far was a partial timestamp > with no further explanation before the reboot output started again .. > > Any other ideas ? > Update : The problem is indeed ocfs2 fencing off the systems , the logging however does not show up in a serial console it DOES show up when using netconsole [base-root@CCMT-A ~]# nc -l -u -p 6666 (8,0):o2hb_write_timeout:166 ERROR: Heartbeat write timeout to device drbd0 after 478000 milliseconds (8,0):o2hb_stop_all_regions:1873 ERROR: stopping heartbeat on all active regions. ocfs2 is very sorry to be fencing this system by restarting , One'd think that it output over Serial console before it log over the network :) It doesn't . Next step is that I`ll start fiddling some more with the timeout values :)

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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options
by Lucian＠lastdot.org 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Sorin Srbu<sorin.srbu(a)orgfarm.uu.se> wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Ray Leventhal [mailto:centos@swhi.net] >>Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:32 PM >>To: CentOS mailing list >>Cc: sorin.srbu(a)orgfarm.uu.se >>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options >> >>Sorry for the late post on this thread, but there's free client called >>'Jalbum' [1] that may well do the trick for you. Many skins, some >>simple, some not..an integrated ftp client for uploading to your web >>server, and nothing else but your photos needed. There's also a >>pre-built rpm which I've used without issue on CentOS 4.7 and higher >>(client machines). I'm hosting more than a few of these albums on my >>CentOS 5.3 server. > > No problem. I'm still interested in what options I have for photo albums. > > Checked the site ou linked too, but I don't get it. Would my pics be hosted > on my own server or on jalbum.net á la Picasa? I can't tell from the tour on > the jalbum web site. > -- > /Sorin > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS(a)centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > jalbum is a hog with large collections.. performance must be 5-6x less than that of picasa on my computer (amd athlon x2, 1 gb ram, sata drive, centos 5 32bit, around 8000 hires pictures)..

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