On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 04:42:09PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:36:17AM -0500, Ben M. wrote:
I concur with Pasi. Please substantiate claims of fact with links. Otherwise it is relegated to my phantom fact & rumor mongering folders, which is where this conversation is heading. Pasi asked several times for substantiation and I see he requests have been completely ignored or sidestepped.
If there is some factual basis to below please supply:
A) "Still it isn't official, but Citrix XenServer will disappears soon ... It will be integrated under Microsoft Hyper-V ...."
[Which seems to be awkward since the other way around would be better (Hyper-V off of XenServer).]
and the basis of:
B) "Citrix virtualization bussiness will be focused only on Management and Desktop virtualization using Hper-V as a first platform and second VMware."
Repeating (unsubstantiated statements over and over does not make them more true or helpful for the list members to stay informed, it is only a social engineering tool not an answer. Do you have some links to these statements?
Indeed.
In that interview (that I linked) Simon clearly says they're continuing in the server virtualization market, and growing fast. Citrix has doubled XenServer/XenCenter customers from Q1.
Also he says the next version of XenServer is coming in the beginning of 2010.
And we're getting a bit offtopic about Xen and RHEL6..
-- Pasi
Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:36:32PM +0100, carlopmart wrote:
Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:20:11PM +0100, carlopmart wrote:
Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:27:57AM +0100, carlopmart wrote: >> Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: >> >>>> Still it isn't official, but Citrix XenServer will disappears soon ... It will be >>>> integrated under Microsoft Hyper-V .... >>>> >>> Uhm.. I don't believe this. Where did you read that? >>> >>> Citrix XenServer was opensourced last week, or the hypervisor+tools >>> part, the xencenter management interface remains closed source (but it >>> can also manage hyper-v). >>> >>>> IMHO, it isn't a good option to maintain domO virt servers based on CentOS or RHEL >>>> now ... It is the time to migrate to another solutions ... >>>> >>> RHEL5, with Xen, will be fully supported by Redhat until 2014. They have >>> clearly stated that many times. >>> >>> -- Pasi >> Ok, I think I haven't explained well, sorry. Citrix Xenserver's hypervisor and tools >> was donated by Citrix last week, correct. But Citrix didn't release more versions of >> the product because it does not intend to develop it and apply new features. Citrix >> virtualization bussiness will be focused only on Management and Desktop >> virtualization using Hper-V as a first platform and second VMware. >> > Where did you read this? You write it like it's a fact - I haven't seen > that anywhere.. ?? This will be announced over next weeks ...
Again, are you speculating, or is this a fact? I think Citrix XenServer 5.7 will be released soon :)
Ok, stay and wait. But I repeat: Citrix will focused his efforts only on Management and Desktop virtualization, not on servers. First past it is do it: donate xenserver to opesource community.
http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2009/11/02/simon-crosby-explains-citrixs-open-...
Simon Crosby is the CTO of Citrix/Xensource.
Interview here: http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/generic/0,295582,sid94_gci1...
Direct MP3 download link of the interview: http://ehg-techtarget.hitbox.com/redirector.mp3?hb=DM560429E9VV83EN3;DM52122...
Quote from the interview (hopefully I got all the words correctly):
"Q: Citrix already gives away XenServer for free, so how do you plan to make money in the market, and how would you respond to those who say that by making XenServer free and now mostly opensource, Citrix is basicly conceding the server virtualization market to VMware and Microsoft."
"A: Yeah, Anything but giving it away. "A: Last quarter we added 25 000 customers"
Just listen to the interview yourself.
RHEL5 will be transferred to 'maintenance' mode after a while.. the feature that are there now will be there in the future aswell.
Btw. the earlier list of options didn't list Novell SLES11.. it has pretty good implementation of Xen aswell (Xen 3.4.1 + 2.6.27 dom0 kernel).
-- Pasi
I have a serious doubts about Novell and Oracle will do about Xen. We need to wait ...
Both Novell and Oracle having been deeply involved in Xen lately, both are developing and supporting their own products based on Xen.
-- Pasi
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